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America is a Christian Nation. With the exception of some prankster (probably Jefferson, or maybe the Frenchified pervert Benjamin Franklin) having fun with the Treaty of Tripoli, all founding documents support the notion that America is a Christian Nation.

attendingtheworld, calvinists4conservatism 25 Comments [8/31/2008 7:18:28 PM]
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Submitted By: doomie 22
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Mr Doubt(hell)fire

I already wrote this on the last post, but

doomie 22 _ This is a quote by Ixion, although there is a user called 'attendingtheworld' that IS a fundie on there... but he's a Muslim fundie.

Also, 'attendingtheworld' did not even post on this board.

9/1/2008 10:48:56 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Another F in American History.

9/6/2008 5:53:16 PM



It's interesting that you consider two of our Founding Fathers "pranksters" and "Frenchified perverts." What a loser.

9/6/2008 8:48:14 PM

wackadoodle

Zombie Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin should rise from their graves and kick your ass for daring to defile their sacred constitution with your ancient book of legends.

9/6/2008 9:19:46 PM

Jay-Sus

all founding documents support the notion that America is a Christian Nation.

Provide the evidence, bitch.

11/1/2008 5:46:47 AM

Michael

@Quantum Mechanic - make that an F minus.
BTW in Singapore they grade students from 1 (top) to 9 (dumbo), then have another category CH - meaning City Hall - which is beneath the 9.

11/1/2008 8:15:38 AM

Elephant Bones

Ixion tends to ignore or disregard evidence that proves him wrong.

1/30/2009 8:43:22 PM

Canadiest

None do, Christianity is NEVER mentioned. But some founding fathers have certainly said things against Christianity

1/30/2009 9:01:29 PM

clockworkcanary

Stop with the fore-father worshipping, ya damned fundyfuxtix. Perhaps USA was founded on Christian principles such as:

Genocide
Theft
and Slavery

Yes, we stole this land, we killed the people who lived here, and we forced a whole race of people into slave labor. Oh let's not forget the Christian principles that started this country with the notion of equal rights for everyone...well, ok, equal and voting rights for the rich, white men land owners.

1/30/2009 9:11:43 PM



[America is a Christian Nation.]

Still wrong. Did you read the text of the treaty? Article 11? For comprehension? The part that says that the US isn't a Christian nation?

[With the exception of some prankster (probably Jefferson, or maybe the Frenchified pervert Benjamin Franklin) having fun with the Treaty of Tripoli...]

It was ratified unanimously by Congress.

[...all founding documents support the notion that America is a Christian Nation.]

Please elaborate. Which documents are these, exactly?

Why does the Constitution itself specifically NOT mention Christianity?

4/22/2009 12:04:42 PM

Lady Gray

The Treaty of Tripoli was written by a preacher and ratified unanimously by Congress. They all agree. We are NOT a nation based on any religion. Christiany just happens to be our most popular religion because it's our heritage. Stick that in your smipe and poke it.

9/4/2009 3:14:12 PM

Dr. Shrinker

"...all founding documents support the notion that America is a Christian Nation."

The constitution makes no mention of god, Jesus or Christianity. Do you think the founding fathers were merely careless by omitting these notions? Then consider Article VI, which clearly states that there shall be no religious test for public office. If the US is a "Christian Nation," why does the founding document allow equal access to public office for atheists and other non-Christians.

I think that Ixion has spent a bit too much time spinning on his wheel.

9/4/2009 4:33:03 PM

Nowonmai

No, it's not "Christian Nation". Never has been. And repeating this lie that it is over and over won't make it true.

I challenge you to find one referral to Jesus Christ, or Christian in the Declaration of Independence, or Constitution.

And FYI, the Term "Year of our Lord" was used as a statement of date, not intent of religion.

9/4/2009 5:40:54 PM



Good point, was Paine, Washington and..........nevermind, I think I got my point.

12/28/2009 5:27:56 AM

TheReligiousCommie

As a Canadian, I can point out about a dozen things wrong with this.

1/29/2010 9:16:18 PM



Ok, and the same pranksters managed, God knows how, to introduce the first ammendment too?

3/10/2010 4:53:07 AM

Se7enSages

Are you sure you passed History class?

8/10/2010 11:15:05 AM

Atakai

So the treaty of tripoli doesn't matter because of who wrote it?
And by the way, Thomas Jefferson wrote the declaration of independence, including the parts mentioning a creator.

11/13/2010 7:14:37 PM

Anon

Why is it that so many Americans find it necessary to justify their beliefs by citing the founding material of the USA? In many cases, not just this example, such citations are bogus, and then they resort to special pleading and Orwellian doublethink.

Ixion could say that the USA should be a "Christian Nation" - and I don't know what that means - and then describe what he would want to change. That could actually lead to useful discussion.

Or is this an identity problem? Are people identifying themselves with the USA's founders so strongly that they are willing to distort historical records to reflect their own beliefs rather than what actually happened?

11/13/2010 8:02:31 PM

Justanotheratheist

Translation: I want America to be a Christian nation. Those responsible for making it otherwise were wrong.

Yeah, well. Live with it, dude.

11/13/2010 11:00:13 PM



Frenchified Pervert would be a awesome band name.

3/4/2011 5:22:13 PM

He Who Doubts

"Moral Minority"

-Brooke Allen

7/31/2011 7:55:05 PM

J. James

OH REALLY??

Why don't you quote the constitution on that, HMMM??

I fucking dare you!

It's okay, we can wait.

7/31/2011 9:51:18 PM

Mech610

I know I'm years late on this one but I just had to quote this.

"The United States of America is not now nor has it ever been a Christian nation." ~ John Adams.

5/11/2012 11:34:33 PM

Blarghonius

Why do Calvinists do anything, since they think it's already been decided? And when they do, why is always shit that looks like it was mined out of Fred Phelp's ass?

6/6/2013 9:08:12 PM
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