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#684045
anonymous_troy
"Christianity was originally taught in public schools. The pledge of allegiance mentions God. You don't have to agree with the original leaders to admit that they founded the U.S. on Christianity."
Well, that was a mistake since public schools aren't allowed to enforce religion.
They added that to the pledge, and I freaking hope they get rid of it.
*palmface*
9/14/2008 9:09:09 PM
#684047
Quantum Mechanic
"The pledge of allegiance mentions God. You don't have to agree with the original leaders "
This fuckwit is as ignorant as Sarah Palin.
9/14/2008 9:12:07 PM
#684048
Thejebusfire
[ Nearly all the original U.S. leaders were Christian. ]
Thomas Jefferson
"I have examined all the known superstitions of the world and I do not find
in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They
are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men,
women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been
burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this
coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to
support roguery and error all over the earth."
John Adams
"Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines
and Oaths, and whole cartloads of other trumpery that we find religion
encumbered with in these days?"
Also Adams
"The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
absurdity."
Thomas Paine
"I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to
that book (the Bible)."
"Among the most detesable villains in history, you could not find one worse
than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to 'God' to butcher the boys, to
massacre the mothers, and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not
dare so dishonor my Creator's name by (attaching) it to this filthy book
(the Bible)."
"It is the duty of every true Diest to vindicate the moral justice of God
against the evils of the Bible."
"Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins...and
you will have sins in abundance."
Really now?
[Christianity was originally taught in public schools.]
And blacks were originally slaves. Just because we did something in the past does not make it right.
[The pledge of allegiance mentions God.]
The pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892. The original pledge was: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.'
Under god was not added in until 1954.
9/14/2008 9:14:05 PM
#684057
MichaelL
Ummm, I'm Canadian, and even I know that the Pledge of Allegiance didn't add God until much much later... dumbass
9/14/2008 9:29:09 PM
#684067
TheOtherRainMan
The Founding Fathers were not Christian (Deistic best describes them).
I lol at your ignorance.
- TORM
9/14/2008 9:37:47 PM
#684070
Allegory for Jesus
"Nearly all the original U.S. leaders were Christian."
Yeah...but it wasn't nearly as much of an influence on them as you would like to insinuate. Their mere membership in your group is not proof that that group is the sole cause of their opinions (especially, you know, when the principles that they agreed upon do not derive logically from the principles of that group...)
"Christianity was originally taught in public schools."
Which, of course, does not suggest that Christianity is the foundation of our government. It just suggests that most people who lived in the country were (drumroll please) Christian. Oh, and that the government has a spotty record when it comes to setting school standards and keeping church and state separate.
"The pledge of allegiance mentions God. "
It didn't originally. It hadn't at all until 50 years ago...
Fail. As usual.
9/14/2008 9:39:52 PM
#684076
Osiris
You do know that the guy who signed this was the same guy who also signed the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The United States government is not based off the Christian religion. It's based off democratic ideas from the ancient Greeks and more recently a lot of the Enlightened era ideas on government and humans rights.
9/14/2008 9:49:30 PM
#684089
Malkavian Jeff
There's a lot of fail within this claim. The leaders were not Christian, otherwise they'd confess that they were (which they never did), The pledge of allegiance "Under God" wasn't added until the 1950s, get a real history lesson.
9/14/2008 10:03:30 PM
#684095
If that's true, I'm glad I don't live in America.
9/14/2008 10:12:05 PM
#684103
God was added to the pledge in the 1950's to be anti communist, because the USSR was atheistic
also, Ben Franklin wasnt christian.
9/14/2008 10:26:03 PM
#684107
History revisionism at work. Frightening.
9/14/2008 10:35:24 PM
#684111
SeenAndNotSeen
Originally, there were no public schools, so I don't see how they could have been teaching Christianity.
9/14/2008 10:46:11 PM
#684117
Papabear
Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Adams, none of these men were anything like an orthodox Christian, certainly no what you, NFK, would recognize as a Christian. And, like it or not, Thomas Paine, a great thorn in the side of religions in that era, was a founding father of the United States.
P.S. The pledge has nothing to do with the founding of this country.
P.P.S. You're a f*ckin' idiot.
9/14/2008 10:49:07 PM
#684123
The L
The best part is, I doubt NFK even realizes that public schools weren't invented until the mid-19th century, and that the Founding Fathers were all home-schooled.
Back then, home-schooling resulted in a much higher level of education than does nowadays...
9/14/2008 10:55:50 PM
#684150
The public schools that taught christianity were most likely of the puritan society which took place before the united states actually became a country.
9/14/2008 11:21:07 PM
#684166
John
"Oh and I'd like to add that I lol that the U.S was not founded on right-handedness. Nearly all the original U.S. leaders were right-handed. Right-handedness was originally taught in public schools*. You don't have to agree with the original leaders to admit that they founded the U.S. on right-handedness."
There. Fixed.
The pledge of allegiance mentions God.
The Pledge didn't even exist until a hundred years after the founding of the country. The "under God" wasn't added until the anti-communist hysteria of the 1950's.
* in the old days, left handed kids were forced to write with their right hands to "break" them of the habit. As all fundies know, left-handedness, like homosexuality, is a life-style choice, not in-bred.
9/14/2008 11:34:13 PM
#684171
Mister Spak
And since allah is the real god, the god mentioned in the US constitution is allah.
9/14/2008 11:38:41 PM
#684189
Ken1971
In the age of the internet, Google and Wikipedia, with information at one's fingertips, I can't understand why so many people are so ignorant. More to the point, why people don't just check their "facts" before posting a diatribe of fail, I'll never know.
"Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." -Abraham Lincoln
9/15/2008 12:02:17 AM
#684196
MK
You know what....
Liberal gay-marriage supporting Episcopalians are also Christian. Guess that MUST mean that all Christians support gay marriage!
Hooray!
9/15/2008 12:14:30 AM
#684208
Old Viking
Not only were we not "founded on Christianity, but the founders went to extraordinary lengths to avoid endorsement of any single religion. I'd suggest you read an American History book, but I know that's silly.
9/15/2008 12:46:47 AM
#684217
NFK, YOU FAIL.
9/15/2008 1:10:42 AM
#684267
Grigadil
One would think then that the Great White Father Washington would have relied heavily on the bible. There is scant evidence of that in historical records. As it stands, he was a Freemason and essentially exemplified the Masonic values and virtues.
9/15/2008 2:16:22 AM
#684592
Jay-Sus
Are you the bastard the offspring of Sarah Palin?
When you spout shit like this I believe so.
9/15/2008 4:28:13 AM
#684862
Detrs
What everyone else already said, you stupid fuck.
9/15/2008 7:48:52 AM
#684900
aaa
Nah, they were masons.
9/15/2008 8:33:47 AM
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