Another question:
Evolutionists claim that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor striking the earth.
If the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor, how did birds survive? Birds are far more fragile than dinosaurs yet they seem to have survived while dinosaurs were wiped out? Matter of fact, how did anything survive?
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Interesting, a fundie trying to think. Birds were not present at that time, they came about later, probably as descendants of dinosaurs. The REAL problem with the meteor theory is that dinosaurs both large and small were destroyed but not insects, small mammals, other reptiles, etc. But then again, dinosaurs had been on the decline before that time anyway. Perhaps a meteor was only one of many things that destroyed dinosaurs.
Not sure what the OP's stance on creationism is, but neither the literal Biblical account OR creationism offer any (sane) ideas of what happened to the dinosaurs.
"Evolutionists" claim it because of the evidence we have of a meteor that struck the earth around the same time we see an abrupt end in dinosaur fossils. We have the 150km crater to prove it.
As for birds, they were simply more adaptable to the environment created suddenly by the meteor impact and after everything had returned to normal. All a species has to do is survive the millenia of chaos, then the world becomes their oyster.
Directly, the meteor didn't kill much, it's indirect effects caused most of the extinctions. Much of the plant life died due to the environmental impact, larger herbivore dinosaurs died because they couldn't find enough food, the large carnivores died because they couldn't find large enough prey, smaller dinosaurs survived because they didn't require as much food, they continued to evolve into birds eventually.
"Birds were not present at that time, they came about later, probably as descendants of dinosaurs."
Actually, "true" birds evolved during the Mesozoic.
"The REAL problem with the meteor theory is that dinosaurs both large and small were destroyed but not insects, small mammals, other reptiles, etc."
A lot of the smaller creatures <i>did</i> die out, iirc, just fewer of them overall.
Evolutionists claim that the dinosaurs were wiped out by a meteor striking the earth.
That's a theory. There are several theories for how the dinosaurs died out each with its own pros and cons.
Now that that's out of the way, you fail for saying evolutionist.
"Actually, birds evolved FROM dinosaurs."
It took me a while to realize how stupid that sounds. Luckily, I'm not a paleobiologist.
That was 65 million years ago, and most of the extinctions were due to climate change, not the impact itself.
The time is known +/- 2 million years as there is a uniform layer of Iridium over the entire planet. Iridium only comes from meteors.
During this time, no land creature weighing more than 40 kilograms survived. There were many species of dinosaur which weighed less than that, evolving into birds, lizards (Dinosaur is Latin for "terrible lizard") - even the Giraffe is a descendant of the dinosaurs as are the crocodiles.
It was a case of "small is beautiful"
Birds are more fragile? Sheesh, it's not like the meteor blew up all animals that were "fragile", causing them to die out, but the meteor changed the earth's climate making it impossible for some species to adapt to the environment.
Quiet, child and let me explain.
The meteor changed the living conditions, wiping away all animals that could not adapt. The large reptiles were among them...
"how did birds survive?"
They evolved later from dinosaurs
"Birds are far more fragile than dinosaurs"
The largest things which needed the most food were the ones most affected.
"Matter of fact, how did anything survive?"
Because the meteorite didn't destroy everything.
simple really.
This comment isn't really fundie, it seems like he's trying to get an understanding and his question isn't really stupid if you don't know anything about evolution, like its not stupid to such an extent like why are monkeys still around.
Yes, the simple answer is that the meteor killed the dinosaurs.
A more complex answer is that much of the world's species at the time were not directly affected by the impact, but by the effects it created in the Earth. Yes, everything at the 150-km ground zero, in what is now the Yucatan Peninsula, got killed by the impact, but the earthquakes and the onrushing water and especially the ejecta in the upper atmosphere did most of the killing. Many species were driven to extinction, many species survived in large part, and many species survived by the skin of their teeth.
Crocodiles and sharks survived the extinction. Lizards and reptiles survived. Dinosaurs didn't, for the most part. It was luck of the draw, and depended on what you required to survive. If we lost a large portion of farmland, we would have famine and a harsher struggle to survive. You can see that going on in Ethiopia and Somalia today, while we in the US have plenty to eat.
Even if it was a fact, not just a possibility, it wasn't the actual meteor that would have caused this, it would have been the effects of it. Some animals could have survived and evolved.
Birds are dinosaurs.
Next.
I think I see your problem.
When we say 'Giant meteor impact killed the dinosaurs', we don't actually mean it hit them.
It hit the Earth and blew a crater 180 km in diameter. Now this will spoil the day of things living in that area, but by itself it won't even be noticed by creatures several continents away. So at this point most things survived.
It's the aftereffects of that impact that changed things so dramatically that 90 percent of species failed to survive the changes.
Although it took about a million years for the dinosaurs to totally die out from the changes. The changes included substantial climate change. It's an oversimplification, but birds could fly to better climates quicker than dinosaurs could walk to, okay?
If you were something like a small creature, living underground and keeping a cache of seeds to eat, I imagine you'd have a pretty good chance of survival.
Let's hear it for the chipmunks! <** breaks into a high reedy warble...**>
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