No, this is a secular nation, bitch. Check the fucking Treaty of Tripoli.
And this sounds an awful lot like the "gay agenda" you bigots are running around screaming.
9/23/2008 11:11:27 PM
Thomas Jefferson (deist) is rolling in his grave.
9/23/2008 11:12:25 PM
"The precepts presented by the 'religious right' are those that were held to by the founding fathers"
9/23/2008 11:21:08 PM
The "religious right" IS a fairly new abomination. It is an evilon between Fundies/evangelicals/pentacostals, conning neocons, and profit-at-all-costs business interests forged in the late 70s - early 80s.
The founding fathers were essentially the eft-wing radicals of their time. They thumbed their noses at their king and founded a new, more liberal country. For that matter, assuming he actually existed. Jesus was a left-wing radical of his era. Bill, on the other hand, is just a run-of-the-mill idiot of his time.
9/23/2008 11:21:41 PM
Read a history book instead of making up your own.
9/23/2008 11:22:34 PM
@POSW: So is John Adams and Ben Franklin.
"Lighthouses are more useful than churches"
9/23/2008 11:25:46 PM
The founding fathers weep for your stupidity.
9/23/2008 11:33:33 PM
If people like Reagan, Bush, and Son of Bush (and Dick) are/were the liberal elite, then I don't think anybody wants to know what you call a conservative.
Fortunately, you're just babbling back the drool some idiot was preaching about on Sunday.
9/23/2008 11:36:11 PM
No. The Founding Fathers never wanted the Bible to enter into our laws. The "religious right" do.
9/23/2008 11:37:58 PM
Or there'd be shit like this in colonial newspapers
and your constitution would be full of Biblical quotes
which it isn't. stupid
9/23/2008 11:54:12 PM
"Rightfully ours" - if any two words should strike greater fear into the heart of a civilised, peace-loving person than these, I can't think of them. When people start shouting about what's "rightfully theirs", it's a good idea to get as far away from them as possible before the unpleasantness begins.
9/23/2008 11:55:01 PM
Liberalism is new?
I think a number of ancient civilizations would like to disagree.
Politics are as old as mankind, they just keep re-naming themselves.
9/23/2008 11:57:12 PM
no, it's not new, but it is more fundamental and insane than it was before
9/23/2008 11:58:35 PM
Allegory for Jesus
The religious right has always existed, there have always been archconservative religious nuts even before there was anything to cry "think of the children" for. I'll admit it, no matter where the facts on the issue lie. As long as you promise to go away...
9/24/2008 12:11:27 AM
What were the 20's then?
9/24/2008 12:17:44 AM
Them fundies love their Opposite Days, don't they?
9/24/2008 12:30:27 AM
America was founded on the idea that the government gets it's power from the people not from some idea of divinity. The government of the United states would be a fully representative democratic state, with a three branch federal system. There would be no monarchy, only law, laws made by the will of the people. At it's birth America was the most progressive nation in the world. Face it.
America was founded on liberalism.
9/24/2008 12:31:33 AM
In today's terms the political attitude of the founding fathers would have to be termed liberal. And we were founded as a secular nation, based on the principles of the French Enlightenment. Read the Constitution. In the meantime, you ain't takin' nothin' back, Sparky.
9/24/2008 12:39:19 AM
Liberals and conservatives have existed for centuries, and it's always been the same story: Conservatives digging in their heals and refusing to accept progress, before finally accepting that the liberals were right after 50 or so years. Wash, rinse, repeat with whatever the hot topic of the moment is -- the earth being a sphere, equal rights for women, equal rights for minorities, and now equal rights for homosexuals, with conservatives kicking and screaming all the way.
9/24/2008 1:28:01 AM
The founding fathers were alive during the 60's????????????
9/24/2008 1:31:03 AM
Um, dang, what was that word they taught me in the army? Er,... Oh yeah, I remember now...
9/24/2008 1:49:07 AM
On Bizarroworld maybe.
9/24/2008 2:21:00 AM
Well, the Religious Reich isn't exactly new, but their attempted takeover is.
9/24/2008 2:28:09 AM
The liberal elite, like George W. Bush...wait... he's not liberal at all. You're either lying through your ass, or you have no clue at all.
9/24/2008 2:28:35 AM
I've never really gotten how "liberal elite" is supposed to make sense. I mean, isn't the whole point of liberalism to help people who are non-elite? I don't even get it.
9/24/2008 2:36:11 AM