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Some years ago I was at a seminar where I met Mr. John N. Moore. If my memory serves me correctly, he was the Chairperson of the biology department at Michigan State University for a number of years.

A film was shown at the seminar about dinosaur footprints and human footprints being found in the same riverbed together. The film showed a 'dozer' cutting away more of the hill at the bank of the river to show whether additional evidence could be found, since the path of the two led that way. Sure enough, additional footprints for both the human and the dinosaur were found. The event was witnessed by two recognized scientists from other universities on camera, and they were most surprised, and could not refute the findings, and had no explanation for the phenomena.

If I remember my biology correctly, it seems the evolutionists generally deny that man and dinosaurs ever existed together upon the earth.

The evidence I saw unveiled (or dug up on the spot) in the film surely shows otherwise.

I have never encountered this evidence discussed in a textbook presentation of factual science.

I suspect that evolutionists are not much in favor of allowing the publication of evidence which does not fit their theory of macro-evolution. They particularly would resist making such evidence available in the science classroom.

Bookworm1711, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [9/27/2008 2:45:02 PM]
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cool cats

Name these two recognized scientists, their universities, and the name of the film.

Or admit this is a big fat LIE for Jesus.

9/27/2008 3:02:39 PM

Jebus

Imaginary evidence is imaginary.

9/27/2008 3:15:08 PM

Doctor Whom

Even AiG says not to use "evidence" like that. If you're too far gone for AiG, then you're too far gone.

9/27/2008 3:17:26 PM

Empress

Your fellow fundies residing in fruitloop-and-lollipop-land might accept your obvious lies without question, but here in the real world we require proof. Please provide.

9/27/2008 3:19:02 PM

Mortok

Enough with the "macro" evolution crap! There's just evolution, that's all there is to it! And while we're at it, instead of waiting around for Jesus to whisk you away to his love-in in the sky, why don't you get up and go do something with your life?

9/27/2008 3:21:35 PM

Beltaine

"The film showed a 'dozer' cutting away more of the hill at the bank of the river to show whether additional evidence could be found...Sure enough, additional footprints for both the human and the dinosaur were found."

Then it was obviously a setup, since no honest or even borderline competent archeologist would use a bulldozer to try and uncover a find such as that.

9/27/2008 3:23:50 PM

Philbert McAdamia

I saw a (similar?) film some years ago, where the fundies had been feeling down in the water with their hands the "human footprints" in the creek bed. The water was only a few inches deep, slow moving, and murky. After a lot of persuasion they allowed the film crew to perform a "scientific" experiment where they lowered a glass aquarium onto the prints to see what they looked like. They were way bigger than any human ones and as I remember looked about like what I would expect alligator or croc prints to look like - nothing remotely like human.
The fundies, of course, were not amused by this "trick".
There were a lot of fossils around the area, but none human. Maybe the Worm saw another movie...

9/27/2008 3:25:47 PM

Horsefeathers

"A film was shown at the seminar about dinosaur footprints and human footprints being found in the same riverbed together. The film showed a 'dozer' cutting away more of the hill at the bank of the river to show whether additional evidence could be found, since the path of the two led that way. Sure enough, additional footprints for both the human and the dinosaur were found. The event was witnessed by two recognized scientists from other universities on camera, and they were most surprised, and could not refute the findings, and had no explanation for the phenomena."

Bullshit. Cite the source. The only place I'm that I can think of off hand where such prints supposedly appear is in Texas at the Biloxi River which is well known to not be what creationists claim it to be.

If I remember my biology correctly, it seems the evolutionists generally deny that man and dinosaurs ever existed together upon the earth."

Well, more correctly it's the geologists who state it but the biologists agree with it. 65 million years is quite a gap to overcome.

"The evidence I saw unveiled (or dug up on the spot) in the film surely shows otherwise."

What you saw, if you're not just making the whole thing up, is what's known as "propaganda".

"I have never encountered this evidence discussed in a textbook presentation of factual science."

That's because it's not factual you imbecile.

"I suspect that evolutionists are not much in favor of allowing the publication of evidence which does not fit their theory of macro-evolution."

Are you fucking insane? They'd love to see such evidence.

"They particularly would resist making such evidence available in the science classroom."

Not if such evidence existed.

9/27/2008 3:29:35 PM

Jeff Weskamp

Nothing but an Urban Legend, just like the Proctor & Gamble CEO who admitted to Satanism on [fill in blank with current talk show] and the fact that astronomers found proof that the sun stood still for 3 hours about 3,000 years ago.

9/27/2008 4:33:45 PM

Redneck Bimbo Governor

You're not remembering correctly. Read a book other than the bible, then maybe you'll understand.

9/27/2008 4:49:50 PM

aaa

Name the film.

9/27/2008 5:22:20 PM

Goosey

Ah, I found an old film that talks about just that!

It's probably not the one you're thinking of, though... http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6413987104216231786

9/27/2008 5:24:13 PM

Cameron Darlirace

And there's this other film with dinos hunting humans called Jurrasic Park. I guess that means that creationists are right.

9/27/2008 5:28:05 PM

Angry Archeologist

Depends on the 'dozer'. A full front load dozer, no, never. A back hoe however has been used on occasions up to a certain depth and then its all shovel time. I've never heard of this though, in all my classes or readings.

9/27/2008 5:39:52 PM

apYrs

I must admit, I admire the way the fundies create words to avoid truth: viz. they can't deny evolution in bacteria, so they call it "micro-evolution". Because large major changes generally take a long time to be observable they call it "macro-evolution" and declare it doesn't happen.

As they lose each battle, they resile to a new position of fundie-insanity.

9/27/2008 6:16:45 PM

Booley

I love how he keeps using the caveat "If I am remembering correctly"

That way when people point out his lies or ask for details, he thinks he will have plausible deniability.

He's not making shit up, you see. He's just forgetful.

9/27/2008 6:38:36 PM

MPW

Not to mention that even if we found out that some dinosaurs survived into human times (not theoretically impossible, although massively unlikely), it would do zip to contradict the theory of evolution.

9/27/2008 7:34:58 PM

Grigadil

Worm, leave the corpse of that lie alone. The perp confessed.

9/27/2008 7:59:13 PM

Old Viking

This fundy gem was killed many years ago, but they continue to flog the carcass anyway,

9/27/2008 8:13:18 PM

Porky Pine

"I have never encountered this evidence discussed in a textbook presentation of factual science. "

That's because it's a big hoax.

9/27/2008 8:15:44 PM

Quantum Mechanic

"I have never encountered this evidence discussed in a textbook presentation of factual science."

That's because you made it up.

9/27/2008 8:40:57 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

Its obvious you are full of shit..do you not realize that it will take TONS more evidence than what you speak of to destroy the evolutionary model for biology..if what you say is really human footprints at all..or are they just holes in the ground that happen to be about the size of a humans foot?

9/27/2008 8:50:20 PM

threshold

Never trust a professor from a state school.

9/27/2008 9:12:38 PM

John

The infamous Paluxy Man-Prints. A mark looking a bit like a fat exclamation point was said by the notorious publicity-hound Carl Baugh to be a human footprint (presumably wearing a Manolo Blahnik slingback ...). Examination showed it to be a dinosaur toe print. There are many others at the site. Even the well-known biblical creationist website, "Answers in Genesis", disavows this one as making creationists look stupid. Sarah Palin has said she believes it, though. No wonder they hide her from the press. She may end up making us long for Dan Quayle.

9/27/2008 9:33:48 PM

Jay-Sus

The film showed a 'dozer' cutting away more of the hill at the bank of the river to show whether additional evidence could be found, since the path of the two led that way.

This is where it becomes a full blown lie. If you're digging for fragile fossils, why are you using a several thousand pound bulldozer?

9/27/2008 10:38:26 PM
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