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Evolution IS the theory whereby matter + energy + chance chemistry = creation.
Matter ITSELF defines time. Time is not a constant. Matter is not a constant. Therefore you calculations for time are only in the dimension you find yourself now and evolutionary time is subsequently, only a theory.
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First thing, he obviously doesn't understand what he's saying, probably a copy pasta, he doesn't know science using the *its only a theory* line, pathetic.
Second thing, I think what he's trying to do is relate the natural laws of the universe to evolution (which he failed because he's ended up talking about abiogenesis instead).
Edit: I don't know, I kind of feel sorry for them, I mean shouldn't we put them in like a camp and teach them how to think logically, I don't think harassing them is going to make the world a better place.
I think that's one of those "decay rates/ light speed in vacuum/ *insert any natural constant here* are not constant. Therefore, you can't trust any solid evidence. Therefore, blue fish (or aliens, or god etc) created universe." arguments. It's one of completely ludicrous arguments creationists use and they use it mainly for two reasons: 1) Untestability of most of it's premises 2)Intelectual dishonesty, since not all of the evidence is looked through this same twisted magnifying glass.
In it's essence, this argument is just one of the means to throw away every evidence, starting premise and conclusion that doesn't agree with your worldview, without actually widening the scope enough to see all of the consequences of changing one simple natural constant. It also has primeses of "last tuesdayism", but I'll leave that to you to find where exactly.
Evolution IS the theory whereby matter + energy + chance chemistry = creation.
That's abiogenesis, dear.
Matter ITSELF defines time. Time is not a constant. Matter is not a constant. Therefore you calculations for time are only in the dimension you find yourself now
So I guess the entirety of history is useless, then?
evolutionary time is subsequently, only a theory.
Need I explain that scientists don't use the word "theory" in the layman's sense? Suffice it to say that a "theory" to a layman is a scientist's "hypothesis".
After reading that, I do not think you are qualified to tell me what evolution is and is not.
Evolution has no statement on creation. Merely it says "The fittest survive and while those with bad genes get out of the gene pool."
Granted, I'm no scientist, I'm a language nerd, but did that make any sense, whatsoever?
Is time not constant? Sure, I'm not certain of the meaning of the term "constant", but it seems to me that time ticks away, second for second, minute for minute, in fairly the same speed and rhythm, all the time.
"Evolution IS the theory whereby matter + energy + chance chemistry = creation"
Evolution is the theory of change in life over time. All the other stuff was present way before life arose,so it doesn't concern itself with anything but the enviroment of the organism.
It certainly doesn't concern itself with some variable time distortion Zapem the idiot suggests here.
"Therefore you calculations for time are only in the dimension you find yourself now..."
So Zapem, how many dimensions do you find yourself in during a typical day?
@ ketzu --
The sum would be a quantity expressable in mass-energy units, not a dimensionless constant. Still doesn't have much of anything to do with evolution, though, given that nuclear reactions really aren't a big part of biology.
Time isn't a necessary value for whatever calculations you are pretending to do about evolution. The only time that is involved is some approximate "time per generation". That's why pathogens evolve faster than fruit flies, which evolve faster than sparrows, which evolve faster than we do.
Chemistry still isn't random.
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