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In 1997, the researcher Gundlach studied the issue of childhood sexual molestation in respect to lesbians and according the medical researchers Gundlach found the following:
"Gundlach (1977) surveyed 225 lesbian and 233 heterosexual women, and found that 30% of the heterosexual women and 21% of the lesbians had been raped. Of the 30 women who had been raped before the age of 14, 26 had an adult homosexual orientation while 9 had an adult heterosexual orientation."

[I'm skeptical of any "medical researcher" that adds up 26 and 9 to be 30]

Author of Conservapedia article, Conservapedia 43 Comments [9/27/2008 7:15:03 PM]
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Epic Wolf

I guess the concept of a person have both, thereby being counted twice, is above your level of understanding.

Someone else here can explain it better if you're still having trouble.

9/27/2008 7:18:39 PM

Fdragon

....

You fail at math.

9/27/2008 7:25:25 PM

GreenEyedLilo

I'd think bisexual women (and I am one) would account for that, *but*, they are quoting a study from either 1997 or 1977. They can't even get their date right! And the whole point is simply to promote hatred wrapped in pity for lesbian women.

9/27/2008 7:25:29 PM

Giveitaday

I'm skeptical of any "medical researcher" that adds up 26 and 9 to be 30

That is what happens with homeschoolers who's parents teach them math out of the bible.

9/27/2008 7:28:21 PM

Yaezakura

Epic Wolf, the entry specifically says only lesbian and straight women were surveyed, not bisexual women. And in scientific studies, you NEVER count single participants more than once, as doing so severely skews results.

Also, the citation they list actually directly contradicts their listed figures, and I can find no data whatsoever on any researcher named Gundlach anywhere. So I'm going to have to go with calling the entire piece bullshit.

9/27/2008 7:30:20 PM

Old Viking

I remember Grundlach. For some reason everyone called him "Crazy Otto."

9/27/2008 7:41:40 PM

Redneck Bimbo Governor

Besides the fact that they can't count, they're saying that FEWER lesbians are raped compared to straight women, so doesn't that disprove the point? If there was one?

9/27/2008 7:49:38 PM



This is extremely sickening, but then I saw it's Conservapedia.

Fucking diaf.

9/27/2008 7:52:48 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

51% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

9/27/2008 8:21:47 PM

anonymous_troy

So wait.

They took some lesbians and some straight women.

And found that more straight women had been raped than lesbians..

adn 26 + 9 = 30...

This doesn't add up.

9/27/2008 8:25:23 PM

Sasha

Your dates differ by 20 years, and you fail simple arithmetic. Why on earth should anyone take this seriously? Conservapedia must be hard up for propaganda to post this tripe.

9/27/2008 8:32:53 PM

Rat of Steel

(anonymous_troy)
"and 26 + 9 = 30...

This doesn't add up."


Given that Conservapedia is heavily frequented by people who recite and believe the mathematical "truth" that:

9 > 216 (think about it)

...do we truly need to expect anything else here?

9/27/2008 8:41:46 PM

Hi

@Rat of Steel

Could you elaborate? I really have no idea what you're talking about.

9/27/2008 8:44:00 PM

anonymous_troy

@Rat of Steel:

What is it, the number of atheists and number of Christians?

A lot of fundies seem to think they're outnumbered and that their little church is the last beachhead of True Christianity against a world that's constantly trying to shoot them or something insane like that.

9/27/2008 8:47:19 PM

Rat of Steel

(Hi)
"Could you elaborate? I really have no idea what you're talking about."


Of course. *smile*

It's inspired by George Orwell's famous novel 1984, wherein the citizens of the State would recite and believe(!) the equation "2 + 2 = 5". We readers know that's false, but the obedient citizens believe it's true, simply because Big Brother says it is.

"9 > 216" refers to the inherently divisive abortion issue. Those who call themselves 'pro-life' (ie: those who might be expected to make use of Conservapedia) fight tooth and nail for the full gamut of rights for people during the 9 months before birth, but practically no rights during the 216 months (18 years) thereafter, simply Because God Says So.

9/27/2008 8:51:59 PM

Papabear

Even if we overlook the bad math and the probability of this all being utter crap, the study is too small to be relevant in such a ill-defined question.

9/27/2008 8:55:17 PM

Horsefeathers

"In 1997, the researcher Gundlach studied the issue [...]

"Gundlach (1977) surveyed 225 lesbian and 233 heterosexual women [...]"


There seems to be a slight discrepancy of about 20 fucking years in your claim. As if the math blunder wasn't bad enough...

9/27/2008 9:01:35 PM

Hi

Thanks, rat.

9/27/2008 9:04:39 PM

John

We don't really know much about lesbianism, or about female sexual orientation in general. We haven't found the kind of hereditary connections we've found with gay men - it's possible they're two entirely different phenomena. There are a lot of alternative explanations that would be hard to disprove. One is that women who are open enough to admit to being gay are more likely to admit it if they had been abused, as well.

9/27/2008 9:07:41 PM

Mike

Smells like bullshit.

9/27/2008 9:26:39 PM

SurfinSeaOtter

Fundies need to take elementary arithmetic before they start trying to talk science and percentages

9/27/2008 9:58:25 PM

aaa

Conservapedia, the place where even this makes sense!

9/27/2008 9:59:19 PM

Mrs. Antichrist

Incidentally, 100% of creationists interviewed agreed that 1 plus 1 was 3.

9/27/2008 10:07:14 PM

Jay-Sus

26+9=30

Way to fail grade 2 math.

9/27/2008 10:52:35 PM

atrasicarius

math, ur doin it wrong.

9/28/2008 12:05:15 AM
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