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Either Jesus was a liar a lunatic or He was truly God. If what He said is true, then we are not fighting against only politicians but demons as well. The Bible says that the god of this world is Satan.
So, if what Jesus said was true, then He is truly God and we need to take into account everything that He said.
If your perspective is that there is no god or that you are god or that everything is god, then you are right. There is no place for politics and religion. But if you are wrong, then there is no place for politics in religion but there is definitly a place for religion in politics.
Google "soccer lighting strike kills whole team" and you will see what the BBC says about how a whole team scattered on a soccer field was killed while the opposing team scattered on the same field was unphased. The BBC says that it was witchcraft and that it happens all the time in that area.
If God did create the earth and all that is, then it's time to get to know Him.

Daniel Jones, timesonline 12 Comments [9/30/2008 4:00:48 PM]
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Ah, good old "Liar, Lunatic or Truthful". I would like to point out that there are a few other options. Perhaps it could be something more like "Liar, Lunatic, Mistaken, Misinformed or Truthful"?

10/21/2008 11:34:14 AM

David B.


Perhaps, but I'm still voting for "lunatic".

10/21/2008 11:36:04 AM

El Guapo

I like lunatic, too.

10/21/2008 2:33:55 PM


Or perhaps he didn't exist? Or perhaps he did, but was just a decent person who was so admired that his followers added supernatural elements to his story?

10/21/2008 3:25:46 PM


Lying little bastard! The article in question is on the BBC New site and says:

"All 11 members of a football team were killed by a bolt of lightning which left the other team unhurt, a Congolese newspaper has reported.

Thirty other people received burns at the match in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Kinshasa daily newspaper L'Avenir said local opinion - known to believe in charms and spells - was divided over whether someone had cursed the team.

The two sides were drawing 1-1 in the match in eastern Kasai Province when the lightning struck the visiting team.

"The athletes from [the home team] Basanga curiously came out of this catastrophe unscathed," the paper said.

There was no official confirmation of the report - a rebel war affects much of the east of the country.

The first strike

In a similar incident at the weekend, a premier league soccer match in Johannesburg was brought to an abrupt end when lightning struck the ground.

Half the players from both teams - the Jomo Cosmos and the Moroka Swallows - dropped to the turf.

Several writhed on the grass holding their ears and their eyes. Spectators and coaching staff ran onto the pitch to help. Fortunately no-one was killed." (emphasis mine)

Of course the BBC didn't say that it was witchcraft! We leave belief in that crap to fundie morons.

10/21/2008 4:23:01 PM


Amazing how folks who can't understand a newspaper article in modern english claim to know everything God meant in a book translated into the english of King James's time (chances are good if they're fundies, they hew to the argument that KJV is The Bible).

10/21/2008 5:01:30 PM


I'd go with lunatic. That's what people called him in his times for preaching love.

And I still can't swallow the whole "Satan is the god of this world" thing.

10/21/2008 6:25:20 PM

Jesus was either liar, lunatic or lord... OR WAS MISREPRESENTED BY DELUDED FUNDIES IN THE GOSPELS YOU JACKASS. Sigh!! Why can't you jerks see that option? Jesus might not even have existed, and in any case the gospels are just proto-fstdt material.

1/3/2010 12:17:57 AM

Quantum Mechanic

"Either Jesus was a liar a lunatic or He was truly God. "

No, a myth for the dismally stupid.

7/10/2012 4:21:08 PM


Or maybe Jesus is just made up and never really existed.

7/10/2012 4:28:19 PM


"Either Jesus was a liar a lunatic or He was truly God."

Or misquoted. That tried false dichotomy has to assume the literal truth of the Bible to work.

"The BBC says that it was witchcraft and that it happens all the time in that area."

No they didn't. They might have said that some are calling it witchcraft but the Beeb did not say it was witchcraft.

7/10/2012 6:33:59 PM

Philbert McAdamia

If God did create the earth and all that is, then it's time to get to know Him.


7/10/2012 8:40:45 PM

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