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Hey folks! Most of you seem to miss one very important word in our Constitution. The word is 'OF' as in 'Freedom of Religion'. Too many of you would like it to read 'Freedom from Religion'; but then that is not how the document reads nor is it the intentions of the Founding Fathers'

Lionheart, timesonline 53 Comments [9/27/2008 2:38:50 AM]
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epik phail

9/27/2008 2:39:43 AM

Smith

Holy fuck, guys, she's right. How has anyone not noticed this before? Damnit, so many people know I'm an atheist. Shit, I gotta get out of town.

9/27/2008 2:42:14 AM

Mortok

Yes, you're free to practise religion, just as others are free to ignore it.

I'm Australian, and I know more about your precious constitution than you do.

9/27/2008 2:43:49 AM

Old Viking

Yes, a citizen if free to choose and practice any religion that pleases him. He is not, however, compelled to choose one.

9/27/2008 2:44:07 AM

myheadhurts

Freedom of religion, if it is going to apply to everyone, also requires freedom from religion.

For a decent article:
http://atheism.about.com/od/churchstatemyths/a/freedomfrom.htm

Interesting quotes from Thomas Jefferson:
http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1650.htm

9/27/2008 2:47:39 AM

MK

Hey wait a minute!!!

You fundies call atheism a religion... right? So atheists are FREE TO BE ATHEISTS!

You call Christianity NOT a religion... so guess what that means......

9/27/2008 2:49:31 AM

Jay-Sus

nor is it the intentions of the Founding Fathers'

Historical fail.

9/27/2008 2:59:26 AM

Fdragon

Okay then, why don't I hold a blade to you and your children's throats and threaten death upon you if you do not convert to the Holy Church of Foamy the Squirrel?

Oh? Don't like that do you?

Then shut up and be glad the true inentions of the Founding Fathers WAS indeed religious freedom.

Asshole.

9/27/2008 3:04:13 AM

The Watcher

That phrase doesn't appear anywhere in the Constitution. You fail.

9/27/2008 3:18:38 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

So Christians arent free from the catholics? The catholics can come in and force "Hail marry" in the schools and the rest of us have to take it?

9/27/2008 3:31:59 AM



@ MK
epic win

9/27/2008 4:23:24 AM

Carrie

Actually I'm pretty sure that was the intention of the Founding Fathers.

9/27/2008 4:32:10 AM

religionisbullshit

Hi retard! I'm Canadian and even I know that your constitution demands the seperation of church and state. You and your half-educated ass should read more! Imagine how horrifying it would be if there was no seperation of church and state but if there still was freedom of religion! Think how much "alternate theories" would have to be taught in school! Evolution, Theistic evolution, creationism, Young Earth creationism, Old Earth creationism, Day-Age creationism, Progressive creationism, Gap creationism, intelligent design, unintelligent design (FSM ftw), wiccan, jainism, hinduism, buddhism, frisbeetaranism, spiritualism, scientology, and God-is-a-space-turtle-who-shits-out-the-world-every-morning-and-eats-it-again-every-night-and-one-day-the-world-will-hatch-open-and-the-almighty-Son-of-Turtle-God-will-emerge-from-the-placenta-of-the-earth-and-vomit-rainbows-onto-the-true-believers-before-carrying-them-on-His-back-to-the-promised-land-of-Turtopia-ism. Because you know i got the freedom of being taught what religion i want to be taught at school!

9/27/2008 4:37:59 AM

Osiris

You can't have freedom of religion without freedom from religion. You can't choose to believe, or not to believe in any religion (which would constitute the freedom of, because utterly freedom is all about choice) without people forcing you either by physical force or legal force to believe in their religion(which is freedom from religion).

In short, can you be a Christian if the government forces you to follow Muslim moral code? No you can't.

9/27/2008 5:00:15 AM

anonymous_troy

Sounds great.

I believe in the Celestial Teapot.

Now shut up.

9/27/2008 5:07:01 AM

Shifty_Eyes

Likewise, freedom of speech means that you can say whatever you want but are not aloud to be silent.

9/27/2008 5:14:28 AM

Laura

"Too many of you would like it to read 'Freedom from Religion'"

I've seen this argument used so many times - what the hell does it even mean? We're not allowed to be non-religious? Or do they mean that they have the right to force their beliefs on us all they want? Honest question.

9/27/2008 5:17:23 AM

LOLWUT

I think you rely far too much on those founding fathers and what they had to say. Apparently they were too vague in the first place, since more than 200 years later you still can't agree on what they actually meant by what they said. Were they right on every issue just because they founded your nation?

9/27/2008 5:19:26 AM

Illuminatalie

"Were they right on every issue just because they founded your nation? "
To a republican, they are second only to the biblical characters in holiness and fundiness.

9/27/2008 5:27:09 AM

Detrs

They are one and the same, but I don't expect you mouth-breathers to get that.

9/27/2008 7:22:59 AM

PWEOTWEB

Damn.

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Oh well. Here's what I was gonna post:

All you people saying the Constitution doesn't have freedom from religion: Are you all inbred morons? Or just really intricate joke accounts? Take the extra chromosomes out of your eyes and actually read the Constitution for once. It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." That implies that, if you want, you don't even have to follow a religion. Lionheart and Ellen, you two are illiterate idiots and I hope to whatever deity there is that neither of you evolutionary defects reproduce. Please sterilise yourselves.

Why is there not a 6 rating? That quote earns at LEAST that.

9/27/2008 7:34:58 AM

doomie 22

That's like saying that "freedom of speech" means you have to say everything that comes to mind.

9/27/2008 7:50:32 AM

Disreg

I'm pretty sure that's implied in the wording.

It's not like the founding fathers meant "You can be Protestant, Jewish, Catholic, whatever, it's all good... but pick one or we'll kill you!"

9/27/2008 8:57:31 AM

aaa

Groan...

9/27/2008 10:03:39 AM

Athar

So by your logic, it'd be better to practice satanism, than no religeon at all.

Ok.


I can live with that.

9/27/2008 10:25:19 AM
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