[When brought up about the murder that Christians have done through out history, here's a fundy's response]
Thanks for the history lesson,and yes the manson incident happened.Ah yes, when nothing else works throw in salem for good measure and why not the inquisition? mistakes were made in the past and regretably so Hopefully weve come a long way in 400 years.satan who you unknowingly worship is resposible for EVERYTHING thats occured. war , murder ,pestulence, famine, everything vile that occupies mankind.But by being an atheist you would have no knowledge of this.
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Ah yes, when nothing else works throw in salem for good measure and why not the inquisition?
That's like a defense lawyer saying, "Ah yes, when nothing else works throw in all that forensic evidence for good measure and why not the witness testimonies."
If Satan's responsible for everything, that lets you guys off the hook. Strangely enough, it lets the evil atheists off the hook for whatever you may accuse them of, too.
satan who you unknowingly worship is resposible for EVERYTHING thats occured. war , murder ,pestulence, famine, everything vile that occupies mankind.
No, all that is God's department. Satan is too busy writing pop songs and Harry Potter novels.
"Hopefully weve come a long way in 400 years."
But not far enough to realize God and Satan are both bullshit?
Way to mix up the fallacies of age you're supposed to be using!
satan who you unknowingly worship is resposible for EVERYTHING thats occured. war , murder ,pestulence, famine, everything vile that occupies mankind.
But if God is all-powerful and could stop Satan anytime He wants but doesn't, then actually God is responsible, because His indifference to Satan shows that He clearly approves of Satan's actions.
Wait, what happened to free will? If Satan is responsible for everything bad that happens, how can anyone be responsible for their evil actions? Why does God doom people to hell for things that Satan is responsible for?
Man, I'm glad I'm not a Christian. It's just way too convoluted.
So if you can, you pin it on the atheists, but if you absolutely know that you can't, it's not your fault, it's Satan's?
Fuckin' hypocritical idiots....
Even if that were true, and "True" Christians really didn't mean to hurt anybody and all the atrocities they've committed in the past were abberations, why should we continue to give them leeway today? Why put your faith in someone, even if they do sincerely mean well, when they have a long, consistent track record of abject failure and, crucially, since their beliefs and approach to life are dictated without derivation or justification, no way of knowing if their philosophy is even logically sound or theoretically workable?
There comes a time when one has to say, "No more chances unless you're going to try a different approach. What you're doing now just doesn't work."
'War, murder, pestilence, famine, everything vile that occupies mankind' make up most of the Old Testament and can all be laid at Jehovah's door, not Satan's.
Satan caused the crusades, the martyrdoms of the Cathars in the name of God, the Holy Inquisition, which still exists, the burning of protestants by catholics and of catholics by protestants. The hatred of the southern christians for other christians who don's follow their demented beliefs...etc.
Siestathedog is talking through his/her arse.
"satan who you unknowingly worship is resposible for EVERYTHING thats occured."
You know, except for the parts where GOD made the earth swallow people's entire households up, killed Job's family as a sick test of devotion, etc, etc.
Also, it's impossible to worship something without KNOWING it. That's quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
They still thought they were doing the work of their god, by their own book.
So if Satan can make anyone believe they are doing good in the name of their god, what makes you think that you are safe?
Read your own bloody book!
Isaiah 45:7 - I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things (KJV).
Who forms light and creates darkness, Who makes peace and creates evil; I am the Lord, Who makes all these. Isaiah 45:7
It's God's departement actually.
Read me a bible, bitch.
"satan who you unknowingly worship is resposible for EVERYTHING thats occured. war , murder ,pestulence, famine, everything vile that occupies mankind."
And don't forget flatulence :P
Wrong on all counts, mostly due to selective ignorance.
Atheists know your god far better than you ever will.
We know he-she-it is but an icon to explain away the erstwhile unexplainable. This is why the fundie religions are so hostile toward science, as each discovery (in your eyes) progressively belittles your non-existant sky-daddy.
Religion , and christianity in particular, has oceans of innocent blood on its hands.
Case in point is that since the discovery of the Americas in 1492, over 100 million native americans were slaughtered because they did not believe in your fucking "one true" sky-daddy - that is an average of 531 indians killed per day, everyday - for the last 516 years.
"satan who you unknowingly worship is resposible for EVERYTHING thats occured. war , murder ,pestulence, famine, everything vile that occupies mankind"
Ummmm, no. God supposedly created Satan and let him loose to do his thing which would ultimately put your god as the responsible party.
If organized religion was responisible for all these atrocities and lack of judgement in the past why are these douchebags so sure that what they are doing is correct now?
Why don't these people see, for example, the parallels between heliocentric models of the solar system and evolution?
So either Goddidit, or teh Devildidit. Moron. Read the laws of the old testament, and then read Matthew 5;17-20, and then you'll know where Christian atrocities originated.
How the red spanking perdition do you UNKNOWINGLY worship anything?
worship (uncountable)
-(obsolete) The condition of being worthy; honour, distinction.
1485, Sir Thomas Malory, Le Morte Darthur, Book I:
whan the knyght sawe that, he alyghte, for hym thought no worship to haue a knyght at suche auaille he to be on horsback and he on foot [...].
-The devotion accorded to a deity or to a sacred object
-The religious ceremonies that express this devotion
-(by extension) The ardent love of a person
How the hell does anyone do any of that without knowing hey're doing it? How you respect, revere, or hold in awe anything without your conscious mind being aware of it?
And how does a fundie gawd-sucker not know the meaning of the word worship? How does THAT happen?
Confused?
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