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#701873
The L
.....Ever hear of Cincinnatus? His story is similar to that of George Washington.
9/28/2008 10:58:35 PM
#701877
SurfinSeaOtter
Western society WAS influenced by Christians... then we got smarter
Well, some of us anyway :P
9/28/2008 11:01:30 PM
#701880
myheadhurts
Morals do not come from religion. Like laws, morals are agreed upon in a society. Because of human nature and the way we evolved, societies develop very similar laws and morals.
The Christian influence is on traditions and culture, not morals. So what you object to is the changing of your traditions because they are contrary to the culture you are familiar with.
9/28/2008 11:05:21 PM
#701881
KDH
Yes it was, but for only one reason:
The Christians fucking killed anyone who didn't agree with them for nearly a thousand years.
9/28/2008 11:06:06 PM
#701882
Godbuster
that doesn't make it true.
9/28/2008 11:06:18 PM
#701891
Jay-Sus
I always thought it was the British, Romans, Asians who influeneced western culture.
9/28/2008 11:12:06 PM
#701894
Mortok
Wrong. Democracy, the principle on which your country was founded, was invented by the ancient Greeks, who gave the world other great things like astronomy, philosophy, trigonometry, and homosexuality.
9/28/2008 11:20:07 PM
#701897
Eden
What morals do you speak of?
Things like
-Slavery?
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have--you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. Lev 25:44
-Mass Murder?
Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor. Ex 32:27
-Stoning my parents because they have another faith?
If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers,
of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth,
you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people.
And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. Deut 13:6-10
-Suppression of women?
And thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Gen 3:16
9/28/2008 11:25:12 PM
#701907
Frog
Hey, Demona. Ever heard of Judaism?
9/28/2008 11:35:56 PM
#701908
Redneck Bimbo Governor
"All Western morals come from Christianity"
Ahhhhhhhhhh...FAIL.
9/28/2008 11:36:23 PM
#701911
Old Viking
No, all Western morals do not come from Christianity. And they are, for the most part, thoroughly repugnant.
9/28/2008 11:38:42 PM
#701923
Berny
Horse shit!
Morality evolved (there's that word again) as societies developed. This happened long before your precious ten commandments were ever put to paper (or stone).
Like it or not, the first civilizations existed on this planet long before the Old Testament was a twinkle in the eye of the first writer (no, it wasn't God).
9/28/2008 11:53:08 PM
#701929
Mrs. Antichrist
No one denies that Christianity has influenced our society. We just so happen to disagree on whether that is a bad or good thing.
9/28/2008 11:59:27 PM
#701943
...and beware those damned atheists, they're bloody arrogant.
9/29/2008 12:18:25 AM
#701946
Gawd
Complete bullshit.
There is a urologist nearby who will sterilize you for a modest fee. (The last comment is directed toward anyone who reads it.)
9/29/2008 12:19:40 AM
#701949
The Watcher
Even if that were true...so what?
9/29/2008 12:26:05 AM
#701950
John
All Western morals come from Christianity
And funny thing is, they're the same as the morals of every other human society, including those who've never heard of Jesus. Name one difference between the morals of the Japanese and the Americans.
9/29/2008 12:28:28 AM
#701952
WMDKitty
No, actually, they don't. Christian "morals" include wiping out entire city-states for the "crime" of being non-Christian. You stole the land of the Natives, killed most of them with war and disease, put the rest on "reservations", and tried your damnedest to wipe out their rich (and varied) cultural traditions and languages. That is NOT moral.
9/29/2008 12:36:41 AM
#701959
Reverend Jeremiah
Same with paganism and asatru..ever wonder why they call it wednesday (wodensday) ..hell almost all of the days of the week are norse gods and goddesses.
9/29/2008 12:52:29 AM
#701995
anonymous
So like, if I gave you a sports car, and then said "Now I want you to drink this poison"
You would be all "But I don't want to"
"Well I want my sports car back"
"You already signed it over to me, you have no legal right to it."
"but your sports cars are based on me!"
That has nothing to do with this.
Anyway, we don't have to take your superstitious crap just because your morals are similar to mine.
9/29/2008 1:20:45 AM
#701998
Thejebusfire
[All Western morals come from Christianity. ]
Like stoning homosexuals and burning witches?
[Their morals are influenced by Christianity]
No they are not, you don't need religion to be a moral person.
9/29/2008 1:22:32 AM
#702051
DJ Shire
why is it that the WoW offtopic forums seem to be be full of funtards?
9/29/2008 2:29:30 AM
#702087
Brian X
In some sense, this is at least partially true. However, it does not validate Christianity; it's merely a statement of (more or less) historical fact. Except of course it ignores the Greeks, the Romans, etc...
Although I'm sure this induhvidual meant it more broadly, the key point here is "Western".
9/29/2008 3:17:36 AM
#702138
The only morals that are law that we must follow to function as a society are no stealing and no killing.
9/29/2008 4:32:17 AM
#702146
Laura
Yeah, I know dude, it totally sucks.
9/29/2008 5:17:05 AM
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