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I've met many Wiccans in recent years. Unfortunately, one of my sisters turned from Christ and became one some time ago. It seems to be a nice, easy, no-accountability religion where trees and fairies are held in high regard and Mother Earth is a god. Simply put--it's death.

JY11, Rapture Ready 73 Comments [10/1/2008 2:56:32 PM]
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Funnyguts

HAPPINESS IS BAD

10/1/2008 2:57:44 PM

Mortok

If everyone who turns Wiccan spontaneously kicks the bucket, why do we still have Wiccans?

10/1/2008 3:00:38 PM

GreenEyedLilo

You mean she smiles occasionally, doesn't cringe at everything the world has to show her, and only worries about real things that really need worrying about? How awful for her.

10/1/2008 3:01:55 PM

Caterina

No accountability?

Apparently, you missed the two main philosophies of Wicca. First, "an it harms NONE, do as you will." No harm. Physical, mental or emotional, not only of others but also of self.

Second, the three-fold law, which states quite clearly that whatever you do - good or ill - is returned to you threefold. It's a fancy way of saying "What goes around comes around." Do good, good happens to you. Do bad, bad happens to you.

Does it always work like that? No, of course not, but it seems to me, no matter what your religious leanings (or lack thereof) those are pretty good rules to live your life by.

It seems to me it is Christians who lack accountability. They can do whatever they want - rape, murder, torture - and then convert, say they are sorry, and God accepts them. WTF? There are just some people who shouldn't be able to get away with that. And yet Christianity's dear and fluffy Lord allows it.

No. No thanks. I'll pass.

10/1/2008 3:07:22 PM

practical_god

Hate to break it to you... actually, no, I don't hate breaking it to you at all... but EVERYBODY DIES! The nice little wicca and the sanctimonious christian. Everybody.

10/1/2008 3:10:57 PM

JewBoy

@Caterina

You beat me to it. Christianity seems like the easiest religion in the world to justify one's wrong-doings. After all, it's not your fault, you're "just human" and you're instantly forgiven for whatever transgression you may have performed, no questions asked and no consequence. At least, that's what the "true" Christians believe. I think Catholics and others have a different point of view on this.


10/1/2008 3:15:07 PM

Shann

Wait...she's happy, she's allowed to use her own creativity and indulge in sexuality, think for herself and has learned she doesn't have to bow down to men because she's not actually inferior?

How horrible for her.

P.S. - The only real fear she should have is of violent fundies who think they have to either convert her or murder her to make the world 'clean and safe' for the other christ-punchers.

P.P.S. - Eleven years later it still hasn't killed me.

P.P.P.S. - You can go fuck yourself.

10/1/2008 3:18:58 PM

Kinderklein

To sum up the moods of God, he is:
vaguely pleased
annoyed
irritated
angry
vengeful

One thing he definitely is not is happy. He might not have created mankind in his image, but he probably created the christians..

10/1/2008 3:26:19 PM

Cap'n Mel

"Simply put--it's death."

Then why don't YOU become a Wiccan, seeing as how all you fundie fucktards love death so damn much?

10/1/2008 3:26:42 PM

LOLWUT

So life itself is held in high regard and that's death? Certainly death is part of life, but still.

10/1/2008 3:29:51 PM

Bored One-time Poster

Wiccan: "Hey, let's all try to be nice and understanding and not hurt trees..."

JY11: "GAaaaaaaAAAAAahhhHHHahhh!!! It's death! Kill it, kill it!!!!! (etcetera)"

10/1/2008 3:38:27 PM

Mr Smith

"I've met many Wiccans in recent years."

Translation: I saw an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer once and that Willow is a witch!

10/1/2008 3:45:49 PM

Mrs. Antichrist

Ah yes, if it doesn't call for mass genocide and bloodshed, it's obviously of the devil.

10/1/2008 3:55:33 PM

NoAstronomer

"Christianity seems like the easiest religion in the world to justify one's wrong-doings."

Indeed, and I believe that is the main reason for it's popularity. Do whatever you like 6 days a week. Pray for forgiveness on the seventh day and you're set.

10/1/2008 4:02:15 PM

Illuminatalie

There is NO accountability for fundies! They are very clear on this.

(1) ALL humans are very very bad. It makes no difference whether you're a sweet grandmother who never hurt anyone in her life, or a slavedriver who gleefully tortures that lower 10% to keep the other 90% in line. God is totally justified in torturing BOTH, forever and ever. No one born on planet earth does not deserve this punishment for being so evil and hateful to God. Even babies are nothing but coiled serpents. This is called Love.

(2) Since nothing we can do can save us, there is no point in being good or bad. Ghandi and Mother Theresa (she was Catholic, not Christian, remember), the non-fundie rescue workers for 9/11 or any tragedy who were killed while trying to save people, they are all burning in hell and repenting their great evils. This is called Holiness.

(3) If you mentally pledge allegiance to the particular denomination of JY11, that's a get out of hell free card. God loves you not because you are good - we are all indescribably evil - but because you guessed the right religion, which was admittedly a tricky guess because of all the evidence to the contrary (fundies are not known for their benevolence, except in their own private fantasies). This is called Justice.

10/1/2008 4:06:31 PM

Fdragon

So...

Trees, fairies and the planet...=death?

WTF??

10/1/2008 4:10:39 PM

blackgem

*It seems to be a nice, easy, no-accountability religion*

The Wiccan's rede and the three-fold law would beg to differ. When you really look at it, it's one of the more difficult sets of morality, because it doesn't give any caveats or get-out clauses. Nor does it offer a simple step by step instructions on how to do it, you have to think and consider your actions and weigh up all the possible harm with the full knowledge that you will have to accept responsibility for any harm you do cause.

*where trees and fairies are held in high regard and Mother Earth is a god.*

Wow, we think we should actually protect our earth and environment. Never personally believed in fairies, but whatever floats your boat. Earth is traditionally seen as an aspect of the Goddess though, not the God**.

*Simply put--it's death.*

Because we consider life to actually be worth living and enjoying instead of hoping for some mystical fairyland in the sky.


** Of course there is no single view in Wiccan or neo-paganism in this. Personally I tend to be of the Polytheistic view, so Mother Earth would be Gaia or one of her aspects but I know others tend to be more Duotheistic

10/1/2008 4:16:58 PM

Mister Spak

"Simply put--it's death."

Is that worse than the stupid that afflicts you christians?

10/1/2008 4:17:37 PM

erin

Yep - death.

10/1/2008 4:46:16 PM

GigaGuess

...now where was I? Oh yes. JESUS, COME AND END OUR MISERABLE EXISTENCE! SNUFF THIS WORLD LIKE THE ALMOST BURNT OUT CANDLE IT IS! SMITE THE UNBELIEVERS!

Yeah, Wicca's so much more death happy than your little cult.

10/1/2008 4:50:57 PM

Rokard

Huh? Are you actually talking about rapturefreaks, but as many fundies do, couldn't write it clearly?

10/1/2008 4:54:06 PM

anonymous

Good to see that not everyone takes religion as SRS BUSINESS as you guys.

10/1/2008 4:54:41 PM

Quantum Mechanic

At least trees and dirt actually exist.

10/1/2008 4:57:38 PM



Been a pagan for 23 years, obviously I'm not dead...so...FAIL.

10/1/2008 5:12:55 PM

Mike

Aw crap, there goes my irony meter.

10/1/2008 5:14:24 PM
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