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[Regarding the evils of Bend it Like Beckham]
Playing football in the local park with a few of the local boys one day, Jessie is noticed by a real football player, Juliette 'Jules' Paxton (Keira Knightly). Seeing quality athletics in Jessie, Jules invites Jessie to try out for her all-girl football team. But Jessie knows her parents do not approve of her playing football. But she is so good at it and playing football is all she wants to do. So, she sneaks. A lot. She defies. She deceives. And she lies. Just to get to play football. The poster above fairly well says it all. I can hear it now! "If her parents had let her play, she wouldn't have been forced to sneak and lie." No one forces anyone to do these things. It is a choice for which the defiant one is completely accountable. To say that denial of a privilege forces one to lie is like a bad guy with a gun saying "Don't force me to kill you."

Tom Carder, Capalert 42 Comments [10/8/2008 7:51:29 PM]
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fritistat

To say that denial of a privilege forces one to lie is like a bad guy with a gun saying "Don't force me to kill you."

As opposed to your god, who says "Don't force me to torture you for eternity".

Someone had a nice steaming cup of hypocrite today...

10/8/2008 7:55:50 PM

Little Miss

Not really fundie...but I bet if the story were about a boy, he wouldn't be so bent out of shape.

10/8/2008 7:56:33 PM



Man you really need to find more important things to worry about than the plot of a movie.

10/8/2008 7:56:34 PM

Old Viking

I wouldn't ordinarily approve of defiance, but this is football we're talking about.

10/8/2008 8:00:39 PM

aaa

What the hell do you have against football?

10/8/2008 8:20:17 PM

Poppy Pomfrey

Do you call it football or soccer, because in US we'd say it's soccer, right?

10/8/2008 8:23:56 PM



A kid sneaking around to play soccer /= holding a gun to someone's head

10/8/2008 8:27:39 PM

Grigadil

The moral of the story:

If a strong young human wants to do something she's good at, whether or not she has asshole parents, she is going to do it.

10/8/2008 8:48:37 PM

Jesus Klingon

But Jessie knows her parents do not approve of her playing football.

That's called "conflict". It comes in many forms, and is critical for telling a story. If she asked her parents if she could play football, and they said yes, it would be a very dull movie.

10/8/2008 9:00:35 PM

Xotan

We are talking about fiction - but then fundies can't really distinguish it from reality.

10/8/2008 9:17:58 PM

John

To say that denial of a privilege forces one to lie is like a bad guy with a gun saying "Don't force me to kill you."

No. Killing someone isn't a reasonable privilege, and the denial isn't stupid or arbitrary. It's more like some loony parent saying something idiotic like "girls can't eat any food with a z in it" and forcing the girl to lie about eating pizza.

10/8/2008 9:30:05 PM



Because God forbid a girl want to do anything else other than get married and pop out babies. God forbid she have a will of her own! Sheesh.

10/8/2008 9:34:06 PM



@Little Miss

Take a look at the source website. The whole argument relies on pure fundie.

10/8/2008 9:43:08 PM

Ltap

I'm going to respond to this with reason:

You treat the character like she is the one in the wrong because she disobeyed her parents. However, she did nothing inherently wrong except disobey her parents. Additionally, disobeying her parents isn't even inherently wrong because assuming that it is would imply the parents are infallible and always right and would never require their child to do something "bad". Therefore, she did nothing wrong.

10/8/2008 10:08:16 PM

WMDKitty

The point was, her parents should have seen that their daughter had skill and talent at football, and *supported* *her* in her passion for it.

10/9/2008 1:01:32 AM

Mister Spak

Don't force me to punch you in the mouth.

10/9/2008 1:28:37 AM

Thejebusfire

[ "If her parents had let her play, she wouldn't have been forced to sneak and lie." ]

Almost every teen sneaks and lies.
That does not make you a horrible person.



10/9/2008 3:45:33 AM

Mortok

It's a MOVIE, don't be such a tool.

10/9/2008 5:01:06 AM

cool cats

OH NOES!!! NOT MILDLY REBELLIOUS TEENAGERS!

Yes playing football against her parent's wishes is a sure sign that she will go about shooting people in their heads.

Seriously, do fundies have such dreary unexciting lives as to get their panties in a twist about a movie?

And from the sound of it a rather fluff of a feel good movie at that.

10/9/2008 5:02:17 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

To say that denial of a privilege forces one to lie is like a bad guy with a gun saying "Don't force me to kill you."

Except for the part that playing soccer isn't harming anyone, nor is it immoral. Your analogy fails.

Plus, it's a fucking movie. Get over it.

10/9/2008 5:44:04 AM



Jess - get the name right - also happens to be Sikh. Go preach to the Christians.

10/9/2008 7:40:39 AM

Mr Smith

But she is so good at it and playing football is all she wants to do. So, she sneaks. A lot. She defies. She deceives. And she lies. Just to get to play football.

Show me one child between 11-16 that doesn't sneak around behind their parents back and I'll show you a kid that's getting away with it.

10/9/2008 10:32:45 AM

Kristine

@Little Miss: "Not really fundie"

This is CAP we're talking about. They are *the* fundie film "critics".

10/9/2008 10:38:29 AM

cf

Where's the fundie in this?? Another crap post. Meh.

Only religious fundies care if their kid lies and sneaks around?? I don't think so.

10/9/2008 11:58:42 AM



Complete
Asswipes
Period

10/9/2008 1:07:08 PM
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