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For me, by contrast, although the nature of [Sarah Palin's] faith and the churches with which she has been associated certainly make me uneasy, they do not alarm me. That’s because I regard evangelicals as allies in the fight to defend authentic liberal, and thus moral, values which I believe are rooted in Judeo-Christian thinking. I’m sure that, had I been around during the Victorian era, I would not have cared either for the evangelicals then trying to convert everyone to Christianity – but the fact remains that it was through their faith that they campaigned against slavery and for just about every social reform that we now think of as enlightened and progressive. For me, ‘anti-intellectualism, insularity, social intolerance and anti-rationalism’ have indeed been unleashed upon our society – not by Christian evangelicals but by the forces of secular fundamentalism and bigotry through such phenomena as scientism, political correctness and post-modernism.

Melanie Phillips, The Spectator (UK) 34 Comments [10/22/2008 3:10:58 AM]
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So fractally wrong...

10/22/2008 3:17:00 AM

Wandering Scribe

Big words + little brain =/= good logical thinking.

10/22/2008 3:21:23 AM

I'm sorry, but did the bitch just blame all the world's ills on, of all things, secularism?


Oh, and slavery was originally promoted by the Bible, so don't fucking claim that slavery was also stopped by Christianity. A secular society that treated everyone as equals that hadn't been brainwashed into being asshats would not have enslaved people to begin with.

10/22/2008 3:28:11 AM


scientism? seriously? How about notchainedtodumbasssuperstitionism?

10/22/2008 3:29:11 AM

Old Viking

Strange. Most of the anti-slavery people here were freethinkers and liberals. Most of the defenders were fundamentalist and mainline Christians

10/22/2008 3:32:57 AM


Melanie Phillips is a douche and this is nothing surprising from her.

10/22/2008 3:55:28 AM


Among the many other millions of things wrong with what you've just said, I'm fairly sure scientism isn't a word.

10/22/2008 4:01:00 AM

Allegory for Jesus

So, the evangelists were the ones who brought about abolition and social reform now? Yeah...no. Nice that you are trying to push "anti-intellectualism" on a group that probably has never shown any inclinations or signs of such sentiment throughout the history pertinent to this discussion. And how is "political correctness and post-modernism" bigotry?

On an unrelated note, I actually just blogged about Melanie Phillips. Apparently she works for the Daily Mail and is a veritable gold-mine of fail.

10/22/2008 5:26:18 AM


Well.... At least she knows how to write, even if she has no single fact right in her statement.

That is far more than what I can say about the rest of the word salads i have seen in this page

10/22/2008 5:34:00 AM


Wasn't the Bible used as an excuse to keep slavery?

10/22/2008 5:49:34 AM


You know what?

I have no comment. I'm bored. I have a brand new GoboLinux setup waiting for me. I am skipping these quotes.

10/22/2008 5:54:10 AM


You can quote the bible to justify anything you want.
Personally I regard it as used toilet paper.

10/22/2008 6:06:02 AM


How the fuck does Mad Mel Phillips still have a job?

10/22/2008 6:45:48 AM


Post-modernism is an art movement. Political correctness is politeness and good manners in a social context. And scientism is what Fundie Christians practice in lieu of erudition and science.

By their fruit shall you know them. Your fruit, lady, is very bitter, indeed.

10/22/2008 7:12:44 AM

Mr Blur

For those not in the UK, Melanie Phillips is a right-wing moron masquerading as a "journalist".

But, of course, you can see that.

10/22/2008 7:33:44 AM



10/22/2008 8:34:48 AM


@toothache: "How the fuck does Mad Mel Phillips still have a job?"

Probably for the same reason that the Sun is Britain's best selling newspaper: we have our share of staggeringly stupid individuals who cling to such reactionary views as these becuase society is heading in direction that they're not intellectually equipped to deal with.

10/22/2008 9:53:29 AM


guess one spectator was looking the wrong way.

10/22/2008 10:37:54 AM



10/22/2008 11:24:55 AM

a mind far far away

Confused as all hell award. I have no fucking clue what this asswipe is trying to say. I left my Fundy-English dictionary in my other brain.

10/22/2008 11:44:28 AM


Wait so science is responsible for anti intellectualism, insularity, social intolerance and anti rationalism...

And Belief in a Sky God who will eternally torture you for not believing in him with blind faith is pro intellectual, pro homogenisation, socially tolerable and rational

What are you smoking and where can I get some of that?

10/22/2008 11:53:25 AM


@Mortok: It is a word. It's not even a biased word. Mrs Phillips has added her own stupid bias.

10/22/2008 12:28:32 PM

Mister Spak

"I would not have cared either for the evangelicals then trying to convert everyone to Christianity – but the fact remains that it was through their faith that they campaigned against slavery and for just about every social reform that we now think of as enlightened and progressive."

Except for those who used the authority of their invisible man to defend slavery, oppose women voting, and eleiminate every social program there was.

10/22/2008 1:00:08 PM

Porky Pine

What is this, backwards day?

10/22/2008 1:26:03 PM

Doctor Whom

(posted by a Christian nutcase on February 9, 2051)

If you look back at the 20th century and the first half of the 21st, you'll see that we Truly Saved™ True Christians™ were the ones who campaigned against homophobia, while the lie-beral athy-yeasts wanted to keep it.

10/22/2008 1:28:42 PM

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