Your name is very fitting.
10/22/2008 2:42:31 AM
Of course I do.
Math at its heart is a representation of reality.
If I have 1 item and I add another item, I have 2 items.
This has been shown to work any type of item, and since a number of other mathematical ideas are based on addition and they all work accurately, we can conclude logically that 1 + 1 is indeed 2 for all 1 = 1 and all 2 = 2, where + represents the addition of real numbers.
As for the universe being orderly, we have yet to find a phenomenon within the known universe that cannot somehow be defined. And those things that do not currently have lower-level explanations [Like how radioactive atoms decide whether to decay or not] are at least statistically understandable and can be modelled.
So, no, there is no faith in science, there are only observations, explanations, and conclusions.
10/22/2008 2:46:54 AM
This is just ridiculous.
10/22/2008 3:17:35 AM
1 and 2 are invented by us to describe quantity and by their very definitions used in the numerical system we have created 1+1=2. In fact in the Roman's numerical system 1+1 would not equal 2. It would equal II, since II was used for 2. I suppose you could create a new numerical system where 1+1=3, but then that would only be true without the context of that numerical system and either 1 would be equivalent to our 1.5, 3 would be equivalent to our 2 or the 2 numbers could be equivalent to 2 entirely different numbers.
10/22/2008 3:21:22 AM
1 + 1 = 10
10/22/2008 3:27:16 AM
When you're a good christian 1 + 1 = FISH!
10/22/2008 3:38:23 AM
i refer you of course to:
using Peano Postulates it can actually be proven that 1+1=2
10/22/2008 3:44:48 AM
Scientists observe the order. Let us know when you observe Christ.
10/22/2008 3:50:33 AM
2 + 2 is ... ten?
IN BASE FOUR, I'M FINE.
10/22/2008 4:06:46 AM
Scientists don't believe the universe is inherently orderly.
10/22/2008 4:24:59 AM
10/22/2008 4:30:03 AM
*Sigh* Take a bucket. Throw a ball in it. Now throw in another ball. How many balls are in the bucket?
Now put down that torch. It's not witchcraft...
10/22/2008 4:38:20 AM
there is a mathematical proof that 1+1=2. a relatively long and complicated proof,for such a basic concept, but proof. then there is the fact that 1 and 2 are concepts, and the concepts are defined, in part, by thta expression, so you could say it's true by definition.
10/22/2008 4:58:25 AM
The number order is a fairly arbitary system, but it's an accepted standard, and works.
It's not bleeding faith.
10/22/2008 5:13:44 AM
Allegory for Jesus
Wow. Thing is..."faith" in something that is not only a necessary assumption in order to make progress, but is also consistent with experience happens to be a far cry from the kind of "faith" needed to believe that any particular flavor of religious belief is accurate.
10/22/2008 5:54:26 AM
I think I have been Gödelized.
10/22/2008 5:58:25 AM
no. Try again when you graduate drom high school.
10/22/2008 6:47:49 AM
Actually I have a great time in school (I am a librarian) proving to the children that 1+1 can equal 1, 2, or any number really. It just depends what it is you are trying to add up!
[I show them that one pile of books plus one pile of books equals one, larger, pile of books, etc.]
10/22/2008 6:58:02 AM
DO YOU HAVE PROOF...THAT 1+1=2...OR JUST FAITH?
If counting it out on your fingers doesn't convince you, maybe you should buy Principia Mathematica. The first few hundred pages are devoted to proving that 1+1=2.
10/22/2008 7:21:54 AM
Try using base 2. You can really blow your mind away.
Faith is the enemy of reason, by the way. Using one negates use of the other.
10/22/2008 7:30:52 AM
Do you have proof...that 1+1=2
Yes. It's fucking maths for fucks sake.
10/22/2008 9:02:09 AM
Actually it takes pretty much one year after the "bac" (high school gradation exam) in "maths spé" (mathematics special, the prep course for the most prestigious schools) to prove that 1+1=2.
Of course, we go the roundabout way : we have to define what a number is (starting from the void set), what an addition is, what the different kind of number are, what the Q, R, N, C sets of number are, how to go from one to another, etc, etc.
It was a fun year, though a bit geeky.
10/22/2008 9:29:33 AM
10/22/2008 9:31:10 AM
As a mathematician i get mightily fucked off with morons who read a paragraph on Godel and think they're some sort of expert on philosophy of maths, especially when they're clearly an intellectual pygmy like this sad individual.
10/22/2008 10:01:13 AM
Your username is fitting.
10/22/2008 10:13:04 AM