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you dopes never learn, do you....when are you going to learn to not doubt me?

http://www.nutrition2success.com/information/cats.php


If you do a little research on the subject you will learn that they used to do REAL science back in the good ole days before Darwinism was such a mainstream kook religion that was not to be questioned. Anyway, Dr. Pottenger did an experiment on cats that lasted many years and many generations whereby he took different groups of cats, feeding one group healthy foods such as raw meat, while the other he fed cow's milk and cooked meat, both of which had had any good nutrients and enzymes cooked out of them. As you will see in the above link, the cats placed on the crummy diet, within just a few generations developed all kinds of heritable diseases, anxiety, behavioral problems, eye problems, and all kinds of other problems including: Increasingly abnormal activities occurred between the same sexes

If science was worth a cotton-picking penny they'd be doing all kinds of these types of experiments on animals like rodents or cats or whatever to validate or invalidate the findings of Dr. Pottenger...(which, incidentally have already been verified by another scientist (forgot his name) who had many of the same results with mice. But the problem is, today's science is full of pigs who don't know how to do real science....they don't know how to do any experiment that might contradict their dingbat, non-intellectual theory that says everything we see around us just happened to form because it popped up by dumb chance in the right place, at the right time and in the right conditions so that the organism got laid more than others, with absolutely no evidence to back up such a wild and goofy hypothesis.

(Referring to an earlier post by same guy: http://fstdt.com/fundies/comments.aspx?q=50098)

Supersport, Talk Rational 38 Comments [10/23/2008 4:38:39 PM]
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#732710
Cirno

Mmm. Raw meat. Delicious.

10/23/2008 4:40:51 PM

#732715
Agnostic Antagonist

Not really very religious at all. Just stupid.

10/23/2008 4:42:13 PM

#732717
Allegory for Jesus

"If science was worth a cotton-picking penny they'd be doing all kinds of these types of experiments on animals like rodents or cats or whatever to validate or invalidate the findings of Dr. Pottenger..."

They do experiment like that. Like, all the time. What rock do you live under?

10/23/2008 4:43:16 PM

#732722
C_V


I don't get how StuporSport links nutrition experiments to evolution. wut?

10/23/2008 4:49:04 PM

#732723
Bored One-time Poster

"Cats need a particular kind of food."

Seriously, you think THAT would be a revolutionary new idea?

You're wild and goofy. Ahawhawhaw- look at that, I can string two adjectives together. Cute.

10/23/2008 4:50:06 PM

#732726
GigaGuess

The way Stuporsport talks, you'd swear scientists sit around all day, drinking Chardonnay, plotting new ways to undermine reality as we know it.

10/23/2008 4:50:49 PM

#732734
Booley

Ok where to even begin with this? So much crap, so little time.

First, the site this guy gives makes no such claim that the problems were genetic. In fact the site says, "only the tendency or potential of a disease is passed on from parents to offspring."

Second, atthe bottom of the web page is this, "Statements regarding the nutritional information or products presented on this website have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. Any product or information is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease."

Third, we have epigenetics which scientists have known causes the diet of the grand parent to affect the health of the offspring

and last, none of this has anything to do with evolution as no mutation or new traits were caused by the poor diet. IF the poorly fed cats had developed adaptations to deal with the poor diet, that would have been a blow to evolution. But that didn't happen.

In short, massive fail. And yes I have learned to doubt supersport.

10/23/2008 4:57:01 PM

#732737
BufferickVonHellbags

what's a "heritable" disease?

also, "....they don't know how to do any experiment that might contradict their dingbat, non-intellectual theory that says everything we see around us just happened to form because it popped up by dumb chance in the right place, at the right time and in the right conditions..", who's "they"?

10/23/2008 5:04:40 PM

#732741
Fdragon

How do cat diets relate to evolution?

And you DO relize that cats are not humans...right?

10/23/2008 5:11:24 PM

#732743
aaa

What is he talking about?

10/23/2008 5:15:46 PM

#732744
anonymous

So eating steak makes cats gay?

This is why they always say to repeat your thesis 3 or 4 times... I don't even know what you're arguing about here.

10/23/2008 5:18:38 PM

#732748
Thundersqueaks

"Increasingly abnormal activities occurred between the same sexes"

So, homosexuality is caused by bad nutrition now? But, but, I thought it was a matter of choice, or demonic possession, or the result of being abused as a child, or...(insert any other half-baked, bigoted, superstitious, pseudoscientific claptrap).

10/23/2008 5:20:04 PM

#732752
Aethernaut

StuporSpurt dishonestly using out-of-context quotes from outdated studies to attempt to prop up the strawman of evolution he's created because he's apparently too goddamn stupid to understand the real science behind it?! You don't say!

This fucker's a broken record.

10/23/2008 5:23:35 PM

#732781
Illuminatalie

Think I'm gonna read all that blat? When you grow up, kid, some adult will be interested in talking to you. Not before.

10/23/2008 5:55:24 PM

#732788
JohnTheAtheist

Ay yi yi.

Please, I beg you, read The Selfish Gene and then tell me if you think evolution is wild and goofy.

10/23/2008 6:06:09 PM

#732796
Mister Spak

Supersport is calling other people dingbat?

And claiming homosexuality is caused by bad nutrition seems to say liberal welfare programs can prevent it. Maybe the reason we have so many homosexuals is because Ronald Reagan cut off money to WIC and food stamps?

10/23/2008 6:16:29 PM

#732801
Reverend Jeremiah

Wait..you say science isnt worth a cotton picking penny in one sentence, yet the NEXT sentence (im not sure, it may be the same sentence, your grammar sucks) has you saying that all of the science you support is also supported by other scientists.

10/23/2008 6:24:24 PM

#732804
NoAstronomer

REAL science, you know, the sort without control groups or peer review.

When will I learn not to doubt you: when you stop making shit up.

10/23/2008 6:26:30 PM

#732808
Thinking Allowed

This guy is way off his rocker.






Oh wait, it's Supersport. Nevermind.

10/23/2008 6:31:07 PM

#732815
Berny

The irony of SuperSport posting on TalkRational was almost enough to blow my meter to bits. Fortunately, the new Irony Fault Interrupter I installed tripped and saved it.

10/23/2008 6:34:36 PM

#732827
Shadoboy

Uh... yeah. What does cat diet have to do with evolution?

10/23/2008 6:42:30 PM

#732893
Old Viking

Bad food is bad. Good food is good. This science stuff isn't as tough as people think.

10/23/2008 7:20:21 PM

#732905


I'm familiar with the Pottenger cat studies, from years of listening to "alternative" health wackos on the radio. But how the hell is this connected to evolution or atheism?

10/23/2008 7:30:00 PM

#732919
Julie

This is a classic case of "get the hell off of my side, you're making it look bad". On the behalf of sane raw dog and cat diet proponents everywhere, I disown this guy.

10/23/2008 7:36:45 PM

#732956
Patashu

'Increasingly abnormal activities occurred between the same sexes '
Well, that could be anything.

10/23/2008 7:57:12 PM
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