"Proud to be an Atheist”
...was printed on the bumper sticker I followed for several stop lights a few weeks ago. It was on a pick-up truck driven by a man in his mid-30's. I guess it shouldn't shock me, but yep... it shocks me that someone could believe there was no God. As I followed his truck on my way home from work I just prayed for him. I didn't know what else to do (although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation). I wanted to talk to him to see if I could reason with him.
If only he knew what I and so many others know to be true.
You know, I'm so blessed to have such great Christian friends and a great Christian family. I think sometimes I'm so surrounded by all those folks that I forget how many people out there are lost and don't know (or refuse to believe) the salvation that is so easily available to them.
It reminded me that this is why we do what we do [at the Church]. We should be reaching out to people like this in creative, compelling, and non-judgmental ways every chance we get; not just at the Church but in our everyday lives. Jesus has called us to be fishers of men (note He didn't say "catchers of men"). We should leave the catching up to God, but we have the responsibility to continuously cast our line out there.
I feel such a passion for this. I'm totally serious here... I was actually trying to figure out how I could talk to this guy! If I didn't think he'd punch me for wrecking his truck I probably would've done it!
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"I didn't know what else to do (although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation). I wanted to talk to him to see if I could reason with him."
You are the one who can't be reasoned with!
Get mental help! Seriously!
Nutjob: "Oh man! I am so sorry I hit you! How could this have happened? The Lord works in mysterious ways!"
Normal dude: "Uhh yah, apparently so do your brakes. Lets exchange insurance info while I get the cops on the phone."
You're nuts! Just go ahead and get into random car "accidents" with people! Hope you are insured - or maybe god will take care of that!
What an idiot, and you talk about reasoning!
Additionally i want to comment that I NEVER feel the urge to cause accidents with people who have cars with christian bumper stickers! (and where I live, I see those all the time, haven't seen one for athesits yet.)
Here's a tip: Try placing your head under his tire as he cruises along at 45 mph. If you reeeeeeeeaaaaalllly have enough faith in Jebus, he'll save you, right? Then you'll have a nice conversation-starting miracle to start your spiel with.
And if it doesn't work, then you were wrong anyway. Either way, the guy in the truck wins.
Meh, this guy seems to be pretty okay. He beleives but he isn't an asshat like others we have seen.
On another note, the alegory of "Fisher of men" is a bit disturbing to me; don't fisher catch fish so they can eat them?
"I didn't know what else to do (although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation). I wanted to talk to him to see if I could reason with him."
I'm going to forward this to your insurance company. :-)
I don't know what bothers me more about this post:
1. That this nutter "followed his truck"
2. The idea of purposefully getting into a car crash was introduced
3. The condescending tone of the entire post
ARRGGGHHH!
"(although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation). I wanted to talk to him to see if I could reason with him....If I didn't think he'd punch me for wrecking his truck I probably would've done it!"
Don't bother talking, you can't. Reasoning with another person requires that you first have a modicum of reason yourself. The ideation above would suggest otherwise.
If I didn't think he'd punch me for wrecking his truck I probably would've done it!
If that's morals I'll stay an atheist, thank you very much.
I wouldn't have punched you... I'd have sued you for assault and for violating my 1st amendment right to freedom of my religion (or lack there-of)
Assault, yes, but First Amendment rights aren't enforceable against private parties except in unusual circumstances in which they wield government power or otherwise stand in its place.
This is sickening.
It just seems to read as "I'M so great. Why can't everybody be like ME?"
That said, it's understandable that Christians want to convert people, and if it's actually creative and non-judgemental, and not pushy, it's not really bad.
"(although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation). I wanted to talk to him to see if I could reason with him. "
Something tells me that if you where to crash into his car the last thing he would want to talk about would be god. Also, if you honestly think a car wreck is the best place to talk about God, you're probably crazier than you think.
Sometimes I feel the same way, most of my family is athiest, and so are almost all of my friends. Sometimes it's easy to forget just how many people's lives are ruled by superstitious delusion. Living in a country like New Zealand, where athiesim is normal and accepted (our Prime Minister is an agnostic, how about that America?)It's easy to forget how rare nonbelief is in the world. Quotes like this remind me of the arrogance of the christian tradition, they think they are "saved", that they alone are in communication with the all powerfull creator of the universe, and that their "salvation" is something everyone would surely want, if only we knew what they do. They assume that everyone else must be misserable and "lost" without god. The guy's sticker said "proud to be an atheist", does this guy really think that ploughing into him and mentioning god during the exchange of insurance infomation is going to convert him? The hight of arrogance...
"I followed for several stop lights a few weeks ago" So you're a stalker.
"although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation" This was priceless. Purposely causing a wreck in order to convince someone who is obviously intelligent of something that doesn't exist. You've got to be an idiot.
"If only he knew what I and so many others know to be true" That you know to be true, based on empirical evidence and logical conclusions? No? Didn't think so.
"the salvation that is so easily available to them" I recall Paul saying it was hard for the righteous to be saved. And Jesus saying that very few would find the way.
"We should be reaching out to people like this in creative, compelling, and non-judgmental ways every chance we get;" Purposely wrecking some guy for a chance to preach is pretty damn creative. But non-judgemental? That's the christians m.o. Accuse them of all kinds of atrocities, persecute them, go into 'bible basher' mode, and then try to convince them that "God loves you, and I do too". BS
"I didn't think he'd punch me for wrecking his truck I probably would've done it!" If you would have done it to me, and I knew you done it in order to preach, you may not have made it out alive. Especially if I had had my daughter with me.
"Proud to be an Atheist”
...was printed on the bumper sticker I followed for several stop lights a few weeks ago. It was on a pick-up truck driven by a man in his mid-30's. I guess it shouldn't shock me, but yep... it shocks me that someone could believe there was no God. As I followed his truck on my way home from work I just prayed for him. I didn't know what else to do (although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation). I wanted to talk to him to see if I could reason with him.
If only he knew what I and so many others know to be true.
You know, these people just keep lowering the bar for stupid.
I will start by saying, fuck you, you brainwashed cocksucker. it makes me sick to see you fucking christians looking down on other people because you think your religion is so much better than any other when if fact, they are ALL the exact same fucking thing. if you read something that was identical to your post but it was referring to christianity rather than atheism, you'd be fucking outraged. does "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" ring any bells? believe whatever you want, but dont fucking push your shit on other people because that only causes conflict and hatred, two things i am sure this jesus fellow would frown upon. anyone who tries to tell others what they should believe should be crucified.
"although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation."
Working God into the conversation would have been easy. In fact, he would have done it for you. As in: "Jesus Christ!What the fuck did you do that for, you goddamned idiot."
But still, the image appeals to my sense of the ridiculous:
Man: "You just drove into my car!"
You: "Yes, but you see, Jesus loves you."
Man: "I don't give a flying fuck who loves me - you deliberately drove into my car."
You: "But don't you see, it's for a higher good! Now you know that Jesus loves you, and you didn't before."
Man: "Jesus doesn't love me, he doesn't exist you fool."
You: "He does! How else would I have got the idea to crash into you in order to save you?"
Man: **facepalm**
Stalker!
...
I want that sticker! >:)
The fuck? Why do you think you're so damned important? You really think you'll have anything to say to this guy that he hasn't heard before? Fundie states aren't so accepting of outspoken atheists. You're a liability! Get off the fucking road, asshole, before you kill someone!
If I didn't think he'd punch me for wrecking his truck I probably would've done it!
The rest of the horribleness aside...doesn't anyone else think this shows a remarkable lack of faith? I mean, Jesus died on the cross for you, so why aren't you willing to take a punch for him?
It's sad how I can still slip into fundy-speak when I want to.
"I was actually trying to figure out how I could talk to this guy! If I didn't think he'd punch me for wrecking his truck I probably would've done it!"
Nice morality. Continuing in the religious theme of doing/not doing something based solely out of fear of punishment.
(although I did think about getting into a wreck with him so that I could try and work God into the ensuing conversation). I wanted to talk to him to see if I could reason with him.
WOW! With people like you in town, it's no wonder he's an atheist. Wrecking into him so you can start a conversation? I'm not even sure how to go about responding to this.
Easily one of the scariest submissions on FSTDT.
More worrying because it's obviously completely sincere and even well meant, rather than some fundie ranting.
That's why MY bumper sticker says;
"God, protect me from your followers!"
My other one says;
"Come The Rapture, we'll have The Earth to ourselves!"
;)
I have no illusions about my ability to change your mind. You are obviously crazy beyond the help that can be offered on an internet message board. As such, I can only urge to wake up every morning and think to yourself, "I'm not going to be a batshit fundamentalist today!" Eventually, maybe you too can live in a world that's worthwhile without your imaginary friend in the sky.
I applaud this guy for the maturity to realize that morality is often about harm reduction more than anything else.
However, I want to fucking dopeslap him for being so monomaniacal as to even remotely think the accident ploy was a good idea. Spiteful, stupid, expensive, illegal, and possibly lethal, and the one thing this yutz was worried about was getting punched? This is the kind of thinking that makes people think fundies are crazy...
If I didn't think he'd punch me for wrecking his truck I probably would've done it!
Yeah, because that's going to convince him to join your religion...
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