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(A discussion about "Hollywood Values")

Andy: I've never seen a movie "demonize" drug use. Every movie I've seen that has drug use portrays it as something "cool" people do. As to your support of decriminalizing drugs, well ... that serves to prove my point. A big fan of Hollywood types yourself?

BenHur: *Huge list of movies where drugs ruin lives, cause people to die, and are generally portrayed as bad*

Andy: Liberals think they can fool people by citing unusual examples to deny a correlation. It's indisputable that Hollywood values are highly correlated with drug use, and that movie portrayals of drug use range from something that cool people do to something that is funny. Can anyone think of a movie that presented a sympathetic figure who was then senselessly murdered or seriously harmed by someone hooked on drugs? I can't. Hollywood is in denial about the harm caused by drugs, often to innocent third parties.

(Emphasis added.)

Andy Schlafly, Conservapedia 58 Comments [10/30/2008 7:06:27 PM]
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A Friend

Requiem for a Dream.

End of discussion bitch.

10/30/2008 7:11:14 PM

myheadhurts

Anyone killed in Basketball Diaries? I remember something about a robbery and the ending showed the main character clean and one of the characters still struggling with drugs. Anyway, drugs were NOT portrayed as cool.

10/30/2008 7:15:47 PM

Brent

Trainspotting baby. Note: NOT "Trainspotting, baby". Just Trainspotting baby.

10/30/2008 7:18:59 PM

ID82

Yes Hollywood is bad, therefore all movies involving drugs portrays them in a good light. This person probably hasn't even watched a movie dealing with drugs,

10/30/2008 7:24:00 PM

captain hooker

willful ignorance - that's not a movie, just what I see in this quote

10/30/2008 7:24:07 PM

Dark_Lord_Prime

Scarface.

10/30/2008 7:27:31 PM

Old Viking

Sinatra in Man With the Golden Horn. Isn't this Phylis's li'l boy? He's not much brighter than she is.

10/30/2008 7:29:53 PM

Headache

Legally Blond?
Bee movie?
Herbie?
Apollo 13?
2001?
W? Oh no, that is right, W does contain heavy drinking and cocaine use by George W. Bush, my bad!

10/30/2008 7:31:33 PM

Pedantic Twit

My grandmother went to school with Phyllis Schlafly. Apparently she was friggin' retarded back then, too. Seems like the nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

10/30/2008 7:34:29 PM

Shadoboy

You can show him Requiem for a dream and he'll still find some excuse to say "But that movie portays drugs as cool, durrrr"

10/30/2008 7:34:45 PM

Aethernaut

I think that this clearly demonstrates that Andy Schlafly is on drugs.

10/30/2008 7:35:56 PM

Echo

Saw IV - and that's a --horror-- film.

Paste-eater.

10/30/2008 7:40:15 PM

aaa

Pulp fiction? Reefer madness?

10/30/2008 7:40:52 PM

LOLWUT

Christiane F. - Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo, a rather horrific and depressing movie about a 13 year old girl who gets hooked on heroin. Sadly based on a true story. But I recommend that you and others to watch it. I think they should show it in schools, too. There's nothing cool about heavy drugs.

ETA: No it's not a Hollywood movie... but still.

10/30/2008 7:46:01 PM

HoJuSimpson

Gia?

10/30/2008 7:52:09 PM

anonymous

"Can anyone think of a movie that presented a sympathetic figure who was then senselessly murdered or seriously harmed by someone hooked on drugs? I can't."

That's because you don't watch any movies.

10/30/2008 7:52:42 PM



All you people who are listing movies for this guy, 'A' for effort, but seriously, read the guy's posts. The problem isn't a lack of examples, he's outright ignoring the evidence. Look at this claim he makes in the face of literally dozens of scenes from movies that have been pointed out by BenHur:

I don't think BenHur has provided a single example to address my point. He certainly hasn't explained it if he has. Corry's "Trainspotting", an obscure movie at best, comes closer to telling the truth about drugs but still seems to fall short.

What the fuck? Does BenHur need to repeat it a hundred times for you very slowly? And since when is Trainspotting an obscure movie?

You're a fucking moron, Andy Schlafly. Die in a fire and take some of the morons there with you.

10/30/2008 7:56:24 PM

Blorg

Whatta dummy!

BLORG!

10/30/2008 8:07:51 PM

GigaGuess

@789153

Not to mention...Trainspotting falls SHORT?! Fack...what does this guy need to see for a movie to count?!

10/30/2008 8:13:48 PM



"As to your support of decriminalizing drugs..."

Hey, you neocon police state shill asshole. Drug prohibition isn't a left/right issue, you pompous jerk. Many people on the extreme far-right support decriminalization (listen to anarchist radio on shortwave for confirmation of this), and many on the far-left support harsh prohibition laws (see the drug laws in many of the old Eastern Bloc states). Learn a little bit about these issues before exposing yourself as such an arrogant imbecile. And prohibition doesn't work!

10/30/2008 8:23:13 PM

MeltedRubberSoul

Touch of Evil
Spun
Blue Sunshine
Jacob's Ladder

10/30/2008 8:52:02 PM

Pagnostic

Holy fucking cow, did Schlafly get owned in that discussion.

10/30/2008 9:03:48 PM

Marcus

Leaving Las Vegas (alcohol but still a drug)
The Man With The Golden Arm
American Grafitti (Milner killed by a drunk driver)
Scarface (a mountain of coke and look how he still ended up)
Payback (his wife ODs on H)
Drugstore Cowboy (Matt Dillon's best picture)
...

Trainspotting, while showing the horrors of heroin, was more or less a "cool" film that kids flocked to like mad. I personally hated it because they killed that baby through neglect.

10/30/2008 9:12:42 PM

Patashu

Game Over. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpBGRA6HHtYc
(It's not a hollywood movie but very relevant!)

10/30/2008 9:27:20 PM

Wait. What?

The guy who kills Batman Sr. in Batman Begins was a drunk right?

10/30/2008 9:58:33 PM
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