No. Homosexuals are a freak of human nature, not a product of evolution.
If you want to bring the Christian holy book into it, God is clearly against homosexuality. He destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah in part due to all the homosexuals running amok.
Of course, there was also lots of other deviant practices going on there including sex with animals, sex with inanimate objects such as cucumbers and watermelons, rampant liberalism, and the good old Christian grandmother of all sins - adultry. God wiped `em all out just to be on the safe side. Looks like He missed a few, though.
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"If you want to bring the Christian holy book into it"
No, I don't actually. Society has developed a fair bit since that fantasy was written.
"sex with (...) watermelons"
I have never even imagined this before. Why do the fundies who speak so ill of "perversion" always have minds filled with so much really strange things?
"rampant liberalism"
Yes, God forbid we have any liberty. Oh, right, he does.
"Looks like He missed a few, though."
I thought he was supposed to be perfect, all-powerful and all-knowing... How does he miss anyone?
If you want to bring the Christian holy book into it, God is clearly against homosexuality. He destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah in part due to all the homosexuals running amok.
Of course, there was also lots of other deviant practices going on there including sex with animals, sex with inanimate objects such as cucumbers and watermelons, rampant liberalism , and the good old Christian grandmother of all sins - adultry. God wiped `em all out just to be on the safe side. Looks like He missed a few, though.
Chapter and fucking verse?
[God wiped `em all out just to be on the safe side. Looks like He missed a few, though.]
So you're saying God is NOT perfect?
So if I follow what you're saying, he wiped out entire towns because they were filled with "the gay" as hipsters say today. Right? Personally, he killed them all.
But he didn't raise a finger to smite Alexander the Great, Aleister Crowley, Lord Byron, Donatello, Edward II, Francis Bacon, Gilles de Rais, Hadrian, Hans Christian Anderson, James VI, James I, Nero and others. (taken from a quick google of "famous gays")
So by extrapolation, God doesn't like a lot of gays in one place, but individual gayness is okfine with your man in the clouds, right?
By this, we can only hope to keep His Imaginary Omnipotence happy by making damn sure that gays infiltrate all strata of society so as not to bottle neck just in one city.
We can start by allowing them to marry.
"...cucumbers and watermelons"
Is there a verse in the Bible that says
"Thou shalt not fuck of the fruit"?
I can think of a million things worse then two men or women having relations together. Though, I can't really know what God's thoughts are, so maybe He was just getting really mad at all the debauchery.
Watermelons xD
Epic. Just epic.
Offered without comment, I recall reading somewhere that there is an Afghan(?) proverb that goes something like ...
A woman for breeding,
A goat for sport
and a melon for the heights of pleasure.
no, we're quite happy leave Xianity out of it thank you. That rather discounts your last 2 paragraphs.
Oh and it's a freak of nature in the same way that red hair is or lefthandedness.
PS
arab proverb:
a woman for duty
a boy for pleasure
a melon for ecstacy
again given without endorsement
"sex with inanimate objects such as cucumbers and watermelons"
Why waste a perfectly good vegetable or fruit when you can buy a dildo or a fleshlight? Come on now, you really haven't thought this through, have you?
"If you want to bring the Christian holy book into it" Um, no. No need to bring fiction into a 'logical' debate.
And as many times as I read the bible, I never once remember reading about the Sodomites having sex with cucumbers and watermelons, nor there being liberalism. Adding words to the bible is a sin, you moron.
"sex with inanimate objects such as cucumbers and watermelons,"
Thats not sex, its just an elaborate form of masturbation.
"rampant liberalism"
WTF?
sex with inanimate objects such as cucumbers and watermelons
I think it's only women in the Quiverfull movement who can take a watermelon, and guess whose side they're on?
Homosexuality is not mentioned even once in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. In fact, none of the sins you mention are explicitly mentioned in the Sodom and Gomorrah story.
But let's not let the facts get in the way of a handy prejudice...
sex with animals, sex with inanimate objects such as cucumbers and watermelons, rampant liberalism, and the good old Christian grandmother of all sins - adultry
Pics or it didn't happen.
"sex with inanimate objects such as cucumbers and watermelons, rampant liberalism"
They apparently skipped over those verses in my Sunday School classes. Awesome.
No no no, we're reading this quote all wrong.
Watermelon is a euphemism for the undue influence of socialism on the Environmentalist movement. The notion is that it's green on the outside, but "pinko" on the inside.
He's decrying having sex with members of Earth First. (He's also calling members of Earth First inanimate objects.)
Homosexuals are a freak of human nature, not a product of evolution.
We don't actually know that. It's possible that male homosexuality is caused by some genetic factor that, while detrimental to males, confers benefits on females.
A great example where confusion leads us.
I was already starting to think, "not a product of evolution - well, with fundie logic, isn't that a good thing or what?" but then we got to the cucumbers.
Okay. Deeply closeted minds love talk about what they long after, be it weird sexual practices or something more sinister. But deep confusion *and* cucumber rawsex means we should probably run for the hills.
I have three questions:
1. Why didn't god just help them through their problems is it was so bad,, rather than kill them?
2. What's so wrong with liberalism that it's followers deserve death?
3. How do you have sex using a watermelon?
Edit: I found this in wikipedia:
"The first modern liberal state was the United States of America[8], founded on the principle that "all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to insure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"
On a side note, Males apparently are marginally more likely to be born, than women, so homosexuality may be designed to keep the numbers aligned.
G0D:
Errr, no I didn't. I didn't write or edit thee book you use as well.
I hope you meant "the book." "Thee" means "you [singular subjective]."
I love the way Fundies think God is a fuckup, because otherwise he'd do what they think he ought to. Like putting watermelons in the Middle East for example. Perhaps he did... but there's no documentary evidence of it. I think it's more likely Smilin' Jack's foolish, ignorant and a liar.
Okay, anyone who does not know how to have sex with a watermelon has not made adequate usage of the internet. :p
(NB: I'm not advocating it, or have even tried it...just saying that I've seen pics...)
"No. Homosexuals are a freak of human nature, not a product of evolution. "
Genetic drift suggests it is.
"gay uncle theory" suggests it's an advantage to have homosexuals in the group.
No. Homosexuals are a freak of human nature, not a product of evolution.
Freaks of nature are what drive evolution.
Missed a few? Y'mean the guy that offered his daughters to be horribly raped? In addition to possibly being murdered,dismembered,have all orifices created from cutting off body parts fucked and then eaten? Because that's what you're implying the people of Sodom would do. Also didn't that guy God missed get raped by his daughters?
I love how much they focus on adultery as such a HUGE thing.
cheating is bad, very bad, but they way they make it sound is that the worst part isn't the fact the cheated party is emotionally hurt, but they've had something they have the 'right' to taken from them.
says a lot about how these people view love and marriage. I don't think they're capable of processing a relationship between sentient life forms that respect each other as equals. to them, everything is above or below everything else. creepy.
yes I know I just ignored most of the post. Thats because most of it has already been covered.
Jack, we don't have a single answer to homosexuality. Let me ask heterosexual men how many of you prefer redheads over blondes, like long legs rather than big breasts, like women to be thin, chubby, tall, short, educated, dumb, or just plain available? Women have the same kind of variety in the kinds of men they prefer. Unless you are also gay, it's a waste of time to speculate. Get a grip.
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