LOL...see evidence. Nonsense. When have you seen oxygen or hydrogen or nitrogen?
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So hundreds of millions of scientists, teachers, authors, and lab equipment manufacturers all around the world are part of some huge conspiracy to make us believe atoms and elements exist? And all of the testable consequences of the existence of atoms were fabricated?
Hm...so since we can't SEE oxygen, or hydrogen, or nitrogen, that means they must not exist, and when we have things that contain those elements, it's not actually those elements, it's jehovah the benevolent sky fairy. 'The Wind', is actually a conspiracy by the evil evolutionists, so we can make and send tornadoes to destroy christians.
@Illuminatalie: it was in the back of my mind, too, but I was hoping, REALLY hoping, that no one was that fucking stupid.
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This is oxygen, cooled to the point that it becomes a liquid. As you can see, oxygen is very real.
Thank you for playing. Next!
Oh you know.... on Mass Spec, IR, NMR... But you don't know what they are anyway so I imagine you'll just use the excuse that I'm drawing a bunch of lines on paper with a multi-million dollar machine.
I'll replace your oxygen with nitrogen and you'll see evidence of them. Or maybe not because you'll be dead.
Also my company pays a lot of money for nitrogen. Maybe they should get their money back because it doesn't exist?
Let's look at this shit ...
"LOL...see evidence. Nonsense. When have you seen oxygen or hydrogen or nitrogen?"
There's two possibilities here. One is that this individual is gearing up for some specious apologetics along the lines of "you believe nitrogen/oxygen/hydrogen exist, yet you can't see them, hear, them touch them etc., so why is believing in god so stupid?". To which the obvious answer is that we can subject the aforementioned gases to a battery of physical tests establishing their existence courtesy of their chemical and physical properties . So that, for example, we can demonstrate that a flame will be extinguished if it is inserted into a container filled solely with pure nitrogen and no oxygen. We can demonstrate that a smouldering taper will re-ignite if placed into a container filled with pure oxygen. We can use the taper to ignite some hydrogen and demonstrate that it becomes explosive when mixed with the oxygen in the air. And, as someone else has already mentioned, we can pass an electric current through water, electrolyse it and produce hydrogen gas at one electrode, and oxygen gas at the other, in the ratio of two volumes of hydrogen to one of oxygen, thus demonstrating in addition a basic stoichiometric fact about water. Unfortunately for all those people who want us to believe in an invisible magic man, similar tests aren't available to tell us that this invisible magic man actually exists.
The second possibility, of course, is that this individual was simply too fucktarded to realise the stupidity of the above statement, but went ahead and posted it anyway because he couldn't see past his magic man blinkers.
I leave it to others here to determine which applies.
I have seen liquid nitrogen, seen the effects of lack of oxygen (which I think you suffer from.)
H2O hydrogen and oxygen mixed, called water! Can I have a cookie now?
Oxygen, Hydrogen, and Nitrogen can be tested for. The evidence can be seen by the end results of the tests. Your god is invisible to all testing, suggesting that god only exists in your head.
For a while now, I've seen these morons spewing ignorant bullshit about biology, geology and astronomy. On the rare occasion, they'll not get them confused.
But I've never really seen that many idiots spewing ignorant shite about chemistry, my field. Of course, this post seems to be an example of that.
But anyway, like other posters have said, there are various ways to test for the presence of these gases, and to determine their properties. Some of these tests are taught in high school science classes. Which is somewhere I highly doubt this moron has ever been.
I freeze plasma samples on nitrogen all the time.
Oh wait, we don't have plasma because you can't see it until you do something to the blood to make it separate. And even then, it really just looks like pee.
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Hey, look! The background has tanks full of oxygen and nitrogen!
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Aaaand, there's your hydrogen. On fire. It's also a nice analogy for your argument.
one straw, once glass of water.
blow air out mouth into straw that is in said water.
what do you think the bubble is you dick
From his YouTube profile:
2) No repeated claims against me or my arguments without supporting such claims with evidence or valid argument.
Translation: I'm going to ignore any factual evidence and repeat any bullshit I spewed.
When have you seen oxygen or hydrogen or nitrogen?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mass%20spectrometry
Main Entry:
mass spectrometry
Function:
noun
Date:
1943
: an instrumental method for identifying the chemical constitution of a substance by means of the separation of gaseous ions according to their differing mass and charge called also mass spectroscopy
Ever used a spectrometer? Do you KNOW what a spectrometer is?
Each gas has a different propety, but only a few are visible.
All gases have the same coefficient of thermal expansion.
Air consists of 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen and the rest are traces of Argon, Carbon Dioxide and a few others.
When heated, it keeps the ears of CRoadwarrior's apart, occasionally leaking in a form that can be misinterpreted as speech.
The key point is "see *evidence*", as in "we have actual evidence that supports the conclusions, and you are invited to examine it if you don't believe us".
**NOT** "*see* the stuff that is involved *with your bare eyes*", as in "in order to believe it, you have to see all sorts of things that are somehow involved in the experiment in question with absolutely no assistance whatsoever".
A rainbow doesn't actually exist, but I (as everyone) have seen them. And all due to the evidence of science (the simple process of sunlight being refracted through tiny rain droplets suspended in the air after a rain shower; the prismatic effect splits the sunlight into the seven colours of the visual part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Thus a Rainbow)*.
Can't say the same for your 'God', eh, Fundies? Even though it wouldn't be impossible to actually show himself - even if he was the stereotypical image; old guy with a beard & in white robes, and was the size of Galactus. Or looked like Morgan Freeman (I'd prefer that; it'd piss off the Neo-Nazi/KKK types!). As long as he SHOWED himself in physical form. Not a lot to ask, is it?
But of course, that's not gonna happen, is it? And why? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T EXIST.
At least we can SEE a rainbow.
*- Isn't an education a great thing?! You should try it sometime, Fundies. Maybe then you'd start THINKING FOR YOURSELVES.
Tell you what, CRoadwarrior.
Run some water through an elecrtrolysis device.
Take the gas from the lighter tube, the one that fills up twice as fast, and hold a lit match up to it.
If you admit that the gas burst into flame, you're a heathen Hydrogen-believer and are doomed to Hell. Better not risk performing this experiment, now that I think about it.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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