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im creationist for several reasons
for a start i have found several, i guess you could say, holes in the theory of evolution
the first cell, when it "evolved" why would it bother to evolve any more, its the top dog, wouldnt it just sit there completely content w/ being the only living thing on earth?

this one is a little amusing
lets take the example of a giraffe, so it starts out sorta like a horse, it decides it needs a long neck to eat the food at the top of the tree.
so it starts growing a long neck. it finally gets its long neck and reaches up to get some food and passes out cuz it cant get blood to its head (dead)
so then it starts to evolve a strong muscles to push the blood to its head. its gets the muscles and the long neck.
now it can eat from the top of the tree, when it reaches down to get a drink, the blood rushes to its head and its head explodes (dead)
then afters its been extinct twice then it knows it needs a long neck, strong muscles to get the blood up there, and a sponge like tissue to soak up blood when its getting a drink

its the whole thing of "irreducible complexity" where if you take out one part of a system (in this case a giraffe) then it wont work

this applies to a cell too. if you took out a part of a cell then they wouldnt work anymore.
darwin (the inventor of evolution) said that if a cell cant be reduced then my theory wont work
(he came up w/ his theory before we really knew much of anything about cells, i believe at the time the were just thought to be little blobs, which they arent)

now the whole theory of natural selection, i do believe in (its not actually a set part of evolution, but it does work in w/ the whole theory)
in my freshman biology class we studied about how when the grand canyon was formed a group of rodents live in the area and was separated by the chasm. over time they each adapted to there different environments and even became different colors

lol, sorry that took so much space and all but i hope it helped
feel free to ask me stuff if you would like, i cant promise that ill have the answer but ill do my best to answer the best i can

Nickthesupergenious, Teenspot 70 Comments [10/30/2008 10:54:39 PM]
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Dman

Its like Im being slowly shot through the head with a bullet made of solid stupid. Very painful indeed.

10/30/2008 10:59:07 PM

aaa

This is just painful...

10/30/2008 11:01:48 PM

DaMentalFunism

Homeschooling strikes again.

10/30/2008 11:04:57 PM

Berny

Go back and relearn what evolution really is, because it's obvious from your bullshit post that you really don't have a fucking clue.

10/30/2008 11:05:01 PM

werewolf

Did you pass your freshman biology class? Did you even understand what your textbooks and instructors were trying to teach?

Face it, Nick. You may be a "supergenious" but you're no genius.

10/30/2008 11:05:06 PM



"Nickthesupergenious"

His spelling of the word 'genius' is telling.

10/30/2008 11:05:56 PM

Doctor Whom

So you believe in natural selection but not evolution? Also, that user name is ironic for a couple of reasons.

10/30/2008 11:07:12 PM

Eden

YXou seem to be obsessed t´with the idea that there are single individuals that evolve instead of correctly assuming that it is a statistical thing that involves a whole population.
Maybe you should study a little bit more (for example biology and statistics) to get on the right track ;)

10/30/2008 11:08:26 PM

Goosey

1) It didn't decide to evolve. It had no control over the situation. Nothing decides to evolve. EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY! Also, it may have been the best lifeform on the planet, but that does not mean it was necessarily well suited for the nonliving aspects of the planet.

2) It didn't decide it needed a long neck. The thing that pumps blood around is called the heart. Does your head explode when you stand on your head? Then why would a giraffe's? Do you really think your audience needs to be told that something dies when its head explodes? Nothing can become extinct twice o_0

3) No, irreducible complexity does not mean that. It means if there was no evolutionary benefit to a simpler version of any part that could have a simpler version, then that part would be unlikely to have evolved.

4) Scientists should (and these days, have to if they want to be taken seriously) propose ways in which their theories can be falsified. See also (3). And you believe wrong. Even in Darwin's time a little more than that was known about cells.

5) You believe in natural selection but not evolution? lolwut. So you believe in the natural selection of evolutionary traits that don't occur? That's like my statement that "there is no goddess but Eris and She doesn't exist". At least I mean it as a joke.

6) It helped entertain me XD

10/30/2008 11:12:34 PM

Fdragon

Nickthesuper...genius?

The Gods of Irony have blessed this man.

10/30/2008 11:18:31 PM



Gee, you must a relative of Wiley Coyote (and sounds like you have just as much chance of understanding evolution as he has of catching the roadrunner).

10/30/2008 11:23:04 PM

Old Viking

No questions from me, thanks.

10/30/2008 11:23:48 PM

Nibien

His screenname is what gave me the most laughs.

10/30/2008 11:31:44 PM

Horsefeathers

"im creationist for several reasons
for a start i have found several, i guess you could say, holes in the theory of evolution"


Sure you have. A hundred and fifty years of testing and some anonymous asshole on the internet with no credentials or training has found "holes" in the theory. Yeah, right.

"the first cell, when it "evolved" why would it bother to evolve any more, its the top dog, wouldnt it just sit there completely content w/ being the only living thing on earth?"

Who says it was alone? Likely life developed in more than one way at the same time, hence competition for resources and evolution is on its way.

"this one is a little amusing
lets take the example of a giraffe, so it starts out sorta like a horse, it decides it needs a long neck to eat the food at the top of the tree."


No, jackass, it didn't "decide it needs a long neck". The animals that could reach the higher leaves--due to a genetic mutation--were the ones who had less competition for food and were, therefor, better fed and more able to compete for mates and outrun predators.

No animal consciously decides to evolve you moron.

"so it starts growing a long neck. it finally gets its long neck and reaches up to get some food and passes out cuz it cant get blood to its head (dead)"

You don't seriously think the creature went from having a neck the length of a horse to a neck the length of a giraffe instantaneously, do you?

Why the hell would passing out kill the creature? If its blood flow issues then consciousness returns when blood flow returns, i.e. when the animal falls down. You really should try thinking things through before you simply repeat bullshit your creationist pastor told you.

"so then it starts to evolve a strong muscles to push the blood to its head. its gets the muscles and the long neck."

Wouldn't a more effective solution be to have a larger heart and more efficient vascular system rather than larger neck muscles. I fail to see what the size of the muscles have to do with blood flow to the brain.

"now it can eat from the top of the tree, when it reaches down to get a drink, the blood rushes to its head and its head explodes (dead)"

Ever stood on your head? Did you die? Yeah. And you were directly vertical whereas the giraffe, and its distant relatives, drink at an angle and not straight down.

"then afters its been extinct twice then it knows it needs a long neck, strong muscles to get the blood up there, and a sponge like tissue to soak up blood when its getting a drink"

You're a moron. Use your fucking brain for something other than constructing straw men.

"its the whole thing of "irreducible complexity" where if you take out one part of a system (in this case a giraffe) then it wont work"

Not if you think evolution swaps out parts the way you appear to believe. Gradual change, both in form and function, gives you plenty of things that appear to be "irreducibly complex" (a bullshit term if I ever heard one, by the way).

"this applies to a cell too. if you took out a part of a cell then they wouldnt work anymore."

If I take out your appendix, will you still "work"? Same thing happens when evolution removes something from a cell or other organism which it doesn't require any longer.

"darwin (the inventor of evolution) said that if a cell cant be reduced then my theory wont work"

Care to cite the page and edition of one of his works where he says this? A personal letter somewhere maybe?

"(he came up w/ his theory before we really knew much of anything about cells, i believe at the time the were just thought to be little blobs, which they arent)"

Cellular biology supports evolution in every way. I can't imagine how you think it doesn't.

"now the whole theory of natural selection, i do believe in (its not actually a set part of evolution, but it does work in w/ the whole theory)"

Natural selection is one of the founding principles of evolution you twit.

"in my freshman biology class we studied about how when the grand canyon was formed a group of rodents live in the area and was separated by the chasm. over time they each adapted to there different environments and even became different colors"

Oh, look. Evolution at work. Apparently you're either too indoctrinated with creationist twaddle or to ignorant to see it. Possibly both.

"lol, sorry that took so much space and all but i hope it helped
feel free to ask me stuff if you would like, i cant promise that ill have the answer but ill do my best to answer the best i can"


I have a question: why the hell don't you get yourself educated about evolution before you go telling others it isn't real?

10/30/2008 11:32:57 PM

Paschal Wagner

Yes. If you take out the giraffe from a giraffe then the giraffe won't work.

10/30/2008 11:34:50 PM

anonymous

You don't believe in natural selection?

So you believe that when a slower gazelle is caught and eaten by lions, it goes on to reproduce?

10/30/2008 11:35:32 PM



o_O

10/30/2008 11:36:54 PM

hmcook87

All of this was througherly disproved at the Dover trial. No further comment is needed.

10/30/2008 11:38:30 PM

Collector1

You fail at biology, you fail at anatomy, and you fail at screen names! Kill you're self.

10/30/2008 11:47:34 PM

Patashu

I'm pretty sure the selection for longer necks was only because it provided a mating advantage; male giraffes fight by clubbing with their long necks, so any giraffe that could support a longer neck would be more likely to reproduce.

10/30/2008 11:57:58 PM

tracer

"darwin (the inventor of evolution) said that if a cell cant be reduced then my theory wont work"


[CITATION NEEDED]

10/30/2008 11:58:09 PM

Green

Oh, god. I nearly died laughing at the giraffe example.

10/31/2008 12:47:26 AM

RevDG

seriously the words EPIC FAIL are the only thing i could think of to sum this up

the name alone is just fail all over.

10/31/2008 12:53:01 AM

thejebusfire


10/31/2008 1:43:49 AM

Headache

Nickthesupergenious

Really?
Must be in every other area but spelling and biology, then?
Come to think of it, probably not in any other area either..

10/31/2008 1:48:47 AM
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