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the ELECTRON, a negitive charged sub-atomic partical that in 15 billion years has never gotten attached to the nucleus. opposit charges atract each other, this is a fact. so explain why a positive charged nucleus, made of protons and neutrons has never in all the time man has studied the atom been able to atract an electron to stick to it. No evidence exists that it ever has. You want me to believe in life from non life, this question should be easy for you.

brother Willi, TheologyOnline Forums 10 Comments [10/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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WTF?! || meh


Since when are evolutionary biologists supposed to be experts in physics?

1/12/2007 3:05:33 AM


Because electrons in a potential well can only exist in a limited number of quantized states, none of which can be described as \"stuck to the nucleus\".

Here's the \"can't be arsed to learn physics beyond 8th grade\" version: electrons are not spitballs.

1/12/2007 3:12:08 AM

Damn Yankee

Don't a proton and an electron become a neutron when they collide? I read that neutrons have a slightly higher mass than protons, so I figure that's how they form.

1/12/2007 5:14:13 AM


Yankee: Such a reaction, if it ever occurred, would emit no energy. If it happened, how would we know?

1/12/2007 6:59:19 PM


The reaction does emit something. A proton and electron combine to produce a neutron and a neutrino. Though, neutrinos are extremely hard to detect.

Luckily, protons and electrons combine most often (I believe) in a process called electron capture. This happens when a large atom has too many protons but not enough energy to radiate properly. The path of least resistance for such things is for a proton and electron pair to combine, forming a new element. This lighter element's inner electron orbit is now missing an electron (an excited state!). As electrons cascade to fill, an x-ray photon is emitted. This x-ray photon can be detected.

/Or somebody that actually knows physics could comment. We pretend to know everything, but I'm just CS.

1/12/2007 11:44:28 PM

David D.G.

Two words: Neutron stars.

~David D.G.

1/13/2007 12:02:57 AM


"that in 15 billion years has never gotten attached to the nucleus."

Gentlemen, I give you:

The Neutron.

By combining a Proton and an Electron...

2/20/2008 6:40:59 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Failed physics again.

During electron capture, an electron in an atom's inner shell is drawn into the nucleus where it combines with a proton, forming a neutron and a neutrino. The neutrino is ejected from the atom's nucleus.


2/20/2008 7:17:01 PM

Terry Stroud

You shame your village.

5/21/2008 1:52:33 PM