No God = no meaning (besides the temporal; eat drink and be merry).
Kill the sick and the weak and all who sap the resources and prevent us from having as much fun as possible.
Belief has consequences!
Atheism is simply the voice of those who feel abandoned. Jesus Christ met that and took it all upon Himself when He said “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me”, while hanging from the cross which barring sucking a living human from the safety of the haven of its mother’s womb is the most cruel form of execution we’ve invented.
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"(...) and prevent us from having as much fun as possible."
No, actually its you "true believers" who want to kill others and otherwise prevent them from having more fun than you (that is, practically any fun at all).
Thankfully, I've solved the problem of exploding irony meters by hooking mine up to an electricity generator (two birds, one stone, and all that). Nowadays the power company hates my guts, but I don't let that get to me.
As for there being no meaning in life without some invisible sky-daddy's ass to kiss every day, I'll quote Dr. Brown who stated it so well in Back to the Future 3 .
"Your future is whatever you make it, so make it a good one." (emphasis mine)
"No God = no meaning (besides the temporal; eat drink and be merry). ..."
Heretic! Where do you think that saying "eat, drink and be merry" comes from? It's from your Holy Bible, idjit. Try reading it sometime.
Ecclesiastes 8:15 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun.
Yes I can see how terminating something that isn't even sentient can be incredibly cruel.
Now, if you'll hold still, I'll be glad to show you much more cruel forms of execution.
"Drawn and quartered" Yeah, let's start here.
"Kill the sick and the weak and all who sap the resources and prevent us from having as much fun as possible" Kill the sick and the weak sounds like something fundies do, or fantasize about doing. All who sap the resources sounds like something fundies do. Prevent us from having as much fun as possible sounds like something fundies complain to atheists about. Belief has consequences, yeah, like giving away your mind and free will. And it sounds like jesus was pretty depressed and discouraged that god, his father, didn't care enough about him to let him hang on the cross, and he recognized this 'fact'. Wow, what a great religion, where do I sign up? Aushwitz?
You know, there are literally hundreds of forms of execution more cruel/painful than crucifixion. The drawn-out, public nature of the event was what made it so feared in Roman times. These people lived for appearances.
Now, if you want horrible executions, try Spain, France, and England in the Middle Ages. Then ask yourself, do you like the smell of bacon?
I first read that last paragraph and thought this idiot was equating the birth of a baby with crucifixion, then I realized he was talking about abortion.
Do these people honestly think that it's fully formed infants, ready to live independently, that are pulled kicking and screaming from the uterus of women during a pregnancy termination?
How divorced from reality can you be?
"Kill the sick and the weak and all who sap the resources and prevent us from having as much fun as possible."= McCains social policy.
"Belief has consequences! "
For example if you believe plague is a punishment from god you will keep having them, but if you believe plagues are caused by teeny organisms you can prevent them.
Although I'm sure you didn't mean it that way.
"Jesus Christ met that and took it all upon Himself when He said “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me”"
Which, were he either god himself or his son, seems an awfully bizarre thing to say, wouldn't you agree?
Jesus Christ met that and took it all upon Himself when He said “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me”...
Can you explain, in 25 words or less, by what mechanism Christ took those sins upon Himself?
Gotta hate all these Christians claiming how their God and religion are "against abortion" or "pro-life." These teachings didn't even exist back in the day when Christianity came about, yet it's possibly the most furiously defended ideology of Christianity. Despite the fact it's really just made-up shit.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!
Hell, the atheists I've met, on average, tend to be more compassionate than the Christians! At least atheists don't shun people for being gay, or claim that everyone must think exactly the way they do in order to be deserving of any rights.
Also, regarding crucifixion, abortion, etc.:
Crucifixion generally took two or three DAYS to kill its victim.
An abortion is over with in less than an hour.
Now, back in the Middle Ages they had some really cruel punishments. They had the rack. They had the "pear" (a device that is placed in the victim's mouth, and ratcheted out until the victim's jawbone snaps). They had the iron maiden (full of spikes and blades--reduced a criminal to chunks about the size of the average coffee mug). They had thumbscrews (every bit as nasty and painful as it sounds). They burned people alive (which can take hours).
And, worst of all, medieval authorities were known to execute the worst criminals by locking them in cages, and then using pulleys to bring the cages up to the tops of towers. Criminals were just left there for weeks until they died of starvation and exposure. It was not uncommon for birds to peck out the eyes of these helpless prisoners while they were still alive. I have seen some of these cages at the top of the cathedral in Münster, Germany. They are clearly visible from the street.
Kill the sick and the weak and all who sap the resources and prevent us from having as much fun as possible.
You probably never read within the bible. I could recommend a lot of passages within the old testament. You will find countless instances of god ordering people to be killed (or killing them himself), for reasons that are rather laughable (for example several thousand israelites got killed by god just for criticizing Moses).
So, as a believer in this god you definitely are the wrong person to accuse atheists of allegedly wanting to kill people for the wrong reasons ;)
sucking a living human from the safety of the haven of its mother’s womb is the most cruel form of execution we’ve invented.
I can assure you, there are many much more cruel forms of execution. Many of them were invented by the christian clergy btw., for example the treatment of witches in medieval christian states, which were first tortured to force a confession that they are witches (no matter if this confession was true or false) and afterwards burned at the stake.
You will also find countless instances of laws (or direct orders from god) within the bible where people were condemned to cruel forms of execution (for example women who are, by divine law, ordered to be stoned alongside their rapist because they didn´t scream loud enough while they were raped within a city)
while hanging from the cross which barring sucking a living human from the safety of the haven of its mother’s womb is the most cruel form of execution we’ve invented.
Most awkward syntax ever.
1) It's a run-on sentence. Learn to use commas, colons, and the like; they are your friends. See? It's not difficult at all!
2) "Most cruel" is the incorrect superlative. The word you're seeking here is "cruelest."
3) "Safety of the haven" is redundant.
4) Stringing prepositions together in a run-on makes it even more confusing. Of the of the of the what, precisely? Tasty recursion!
5) Your choice of words in "living human" is also incorrect, and somewhat redundant even if that weren't the case: why would there be a problem in removing a dead human from a woman's uterus?
Try this:
while hanging from the cross: which, barring the removal of a fetus from a woman’s womb, is the cruelest form of execution we’ve invented.
There you are. It's still incredibly silly as far as sentiments go, but at least now your comment is grammatically correct and that's a start.
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Kill the sick and the weak and all who sap the resources and prevent us from having as much fun as possible. "
My father is a computer scientist trying to find cures for diseases. My mother is a nurse who retired. I doubt very much they are in a boat about killing the weak. And you prevent others from having fun far more than any atheist.
No, crucifixion is one of the cheapest nasty forms of execution we've ever invented. Even the guillotine takes a larger investment, never mind torture devices which are also very labor-intensive, and conducting burnings was generally the first or second-largest single expense of the medieval inquisitions.
Crucifixion involves a very simple and huighly reusable construct and some rope. Low-tech, low-effort, high return. That's why the Romans did so much of it. It's cruel, but it's one among many.
My favorite martyr is actually that guy who was supposedly roasted slowly to death and shortly before dying told his enemies to turn him over because "I'm done on this side." Isn't that awesome? Ah! It's St. Lawrence, martyred by Vespasian in 258, feast day August 10th. Praise Google! So yeah. He's like the early-Christian version of Giles Corey, with his apocryphal snarking. That's cool, right?
You're kidding me, right? An abortion is worse than fucking crucifixion? And not to mention there's worse ways of death than crucifion, like scaphism, kindly described in this Wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scaphism (Not for the faint of stomach)
Atheism is for people who have outgrown magic tricks. As a bonus, we don't have to mutter magical spells and hope somebody is listening. We don't have nightmares about demons. And when the time has come for us to die, we do not go out desperately hoping that god grades on the curve.
Abandoned... by an imaginary fantasy? But no, atheism doesn't mean Social Darwinism, neither does understanding evolution. Homo Sapiens is a single species all humans are part of, it's pseudoscientific racialists and narcissists and eugenists who pretend otherwise.
Confused?
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