You know what my greatest argument vs atheists is?
That we're the only species on the planet with a sense of humor. Do your cats and dogs have a sense of humor? Do you tell them jokes? Do you bug them? Do they understand what you are doing to them? No, therefore God exists.
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Walked right into it..
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Cats and dogs do have a sense of humor and rats laugh when tickled. So you fail.
BTW if you bug a cat.... they bide their time and get even when you least expect it. Seriously, don't bug cats.
Do your cats and dogs have a sense of humor? They have patterns of play that might suggest they do.
Do you tell them jokes? Unfortunately, I can’t speak feline
Do you bug them? Sometimes and that is when you get a claw to the face
Do they understand what you are doing to them? What like when they get sprayed with a water bottle for shitting on the carpet? They do have basic senses. Some better than humans.
You know what my greatest argument vs christians is?
That we're the only species on the planet with a sense of humor. Do your cats and dogs have a sense of humor? Do you tell them jokes? Do you bug them? Do they understand what you are doing to them? No, therefore God doesn't exist.
Wow it's the same affect.
"No, therefore God exists."
Why didn't you just save yourself some typing and simply post this? It all comes out the same anyway.
"...we're the only species on the planet with a sense of humor."
Obviously, Michelle never owned ferrets. Through their body language, you can tell what they are thinking. And they love to mess with cats.
Logic does not work that way.
And for the record, we're not the only species to experience some form of amusement. Primates, dogs, dolphins, etc. all show primitive versions of amusement, which is probably the evolutionary prerequisite to humour. Case in point: My dog loves running up to people and dropping his bone on their foot to see their reactions. He does this repeatedly, and always has the same amused expression on his face when he does it. It may not be sophisticated humour, but it's something.
I could talk about the games my cats play and the way they hide things from each other. Or I could let Mei Xiang and Tai Shan from the National Zoo ever-so-cutely illustrate why this is full of fail.
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Sure looks like a mama tickling her baby, doesn't it?
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Something made Tai Shan happy!
Many animals have better-developed senses of humor than most fundies, anyway.
Christian Comedy Tour '08?
But you got to work on the punchlines, tighten it up a bit, ya know...
Dolphins...
Several types of primates...
Elephants...
Just to name a few animals that have been observed to show what may well be a sense of humor (dolphins and primates, especially), or at the very least, a highly-aware sense of play.
@ Mrs. Antichrist
It may not be sophisticated humour, but it's something.
I'm sure we've all seen fundy and freeper "jokes". Perhaps they, too, will evolve a sense of humor.
I had two cats, Daphne and Derek.
Daphne would rather I had sold Derek into slavery.
When Derek dosed off inside a paper bag one day, Daphne sat on the end closing it off.
She then proceeded to beat him with her wide double paws.
I think she enjoyed it.
You know what my greatest argument vs atheists is?
That we're the only species on the planet with a sense of humor. Do your cats and dogs have a sense of humor? Do you tell them jokes? Do you bug them? Do they understand what you are doing to them? No, therefore God exists.
If you had made such an inane arguement in an actual court of law the judge would have held you in contempt by the scruff. Regretfully, here, 'mockery' is the best we can offer.
Well, our cat (a gorgeous siberian) certainly are able of both seemingly sophisticated sarcasm as well as plain old good-spirited bullying.
Oh, and all the primates (humans not included as you've already established that most of us do have a sense of humour) on the planet would like a word.
I've read the bible. The main character strikes me as one of the most humourless fictional characters I've ever come across.
But OK, I'll play:
Bats are the only mammals that can fly. Therefore, God is a bat.
It would explain why we refer to the people who think he created them from *ahem* "dirt" as "batshit crazy."
Ok, you got me. I believe you now. There's absolutely no way the sence of humor could have evolved. The only other option is that the deity of ancient jewish mythology created the sence of humor. After all, the bible is the greatest joke book ever written.
"Paschal Wagner #788353 2008-Oct-30 07:24 AM
I've read the bible. The main character strikes me as one of the most humourless fictional characters I've ever come across.
But OK, I'll play:
Bats are the only mammals that can fly. Therefore, God is a bat."
Seconded.
But the Seahorse is the only biological lifeform on this planet where the male gets pregnant (he fertilises the egg, then the egg is passed back to him from the female)
Therefore - God is a seahorse! (and only 2" tall)
That's your best argument? Then you're in some real trouble. Have you ever seen cats play? Probably not. All the dogs I've ever owned have had a much higher developed sense of humor than fundies could ever have. And evidence shows that dolphins, apes, and chimps all have a sense of humor. Even the bible says that the leviathan was created to "frolic". So, yet again, the bible bashers' logic is defeated by the bible itself. Fail. Extremely fail.
Psalm 104:26 There go the ships: [there is] that leviathan, [whom] thou hast made to play therein.
Play- Hebrew 'sachaq' 1. to laugh, play, mock a) (Qal) 1) to laugh (usually in contempt or derision), 2) to sport, play, b) (Piel) 1) to make sport, 2) to jest, 3) to play (including instrumental music, singing, dancing), c) (Hiphil) to laugh mockingly
This sounds like a sense of humor to me, straight from the bible.
Epic logic fail. How does this twat know animals don't have a sense of humor and we can't detect it?
I'm pretty sure Coco the gorilla make "jokes" with her human trainers.
And what about mischievous kitties? Any cat owner will tell you they have a sense of humor.
Michelle, you have obviously never owned a cat. Come to think of it, that definition might prove that fundies are not the same species as the rest of us. I have yet to meet a fundie with a real sense of humor. Of course fundies may be proof that God exists and has a sick sense of humor!
Poor Michelle, she apparently never had a pet.
Yes, cats and dogs do have a sense of humor, and they laugh at her.
@WMDKitty
And just how much time have you actually spent with dogs and cats? They do, in fact, have senses of humor -- sometimes quite sadistic!
Yes, anyone with a pet other than a goldfish knows that pets can have a rather warped sense of humor.
It´s getting harder and harder for fundamentalists and other people who want to prove that humans are no members of the kingdom of animalia, but something completely different (and higher).
Some decades ago it was too use that was propagated by such people as separating us from animals. But sadly for them, biologists discovered that othr primates and even birds used tools and even would form traditions concerning the use of these tools, with the older animals teaching the younger ones (for example japanese macaques, who would use stones to crush nuts and would wash potatoes in water).
Not even the argument about humans being the only species to use language survived, thanks to some intelligent apes, like Coco or Washoe, who were able to learn some form of human sign language and use it intelligently to communicate with their caretakers and even try on their own to teach fellows that were housed in the same cage in the principles of the sign language.
Looks like they are fighting a losing battle, if they now, just out of desperation, have to choose the sense of humour to separate humans from (other) animals :D
(and to, for some strange reasons see it as a proof of god :D )
I assume as soon as science proves that inteligent non human animals are de facto telling jokes, they will have to retreat to the last bastion which I will word with Michelles posting:
You know what my greatest argument vs atheists is?
That we're the only species on the planet who believes in god. Do your cats and dogs believe in god? Do they pray? Do they hold service? Do they read in the bible? No, therefore God exists.
:D
I've done research with a former professor at the Yerkes Primate Institute on facial expressions of chimpanzees. They smile; they laugh; they show a wide spectrum of facial expressions that designate mood/disposition.
So why would a chimp laugh if he didn't think something was funny?
You fail.
Never seen magpies or squirrels tease a cat or dog, huh? Too bad for you. It's quite cute.
I've always said that having my cats is like having two little furry comedians living in my house full-time.
Since I can't speak for my cat and her sense of humor, I can only relate things I've noticed.
1) She will let my girlfriend hold her and even be playful till I enter the room. Then she screeches and claws my girlfriend like my girlfriend was abusing her.
2) After we moved into the new apartment, I discovered, under the radiator, a stash of bee parts. Heads were in one pile. rest of the body in another. The cat got real angry when I vacuumed up her killing fields.
3) Sometimes she'll find a house centipede, those ugly fucking things with the thin, whiplike legs. She takes off the legs on one side and forces it to run in a straight line. Because it now can only run in a circle, she hits it with her foot and makes it keep it's near-straight path. She'll march it up and down the kitchen floor once or twice before crushing it.
4) This morning, I got up and fed both cats. Mine, stayed in bed and waited till the girlfriend woke up. When she did, the cat rolled over and acted playful. Girlfriend went to pet said playful cat. Girlfriend needed medical attention to repair the new jagged rend that goes the length of her thumb pad. Cat teeth can apparently open up a 29 year old like tissue paper.
Apparently cats have a sense of humor that befits someone like The Joker, or perhaps most serial killers.
You know what my greatest argument vs atheists is?
No, please enlighten me.
That we're the only species on the planet with a sense of humor.
Oh, right. Of course.
Do your cats and dogs have a sense of humor?
Wait a minute, yes, they do.
Do you tell them jokes?
In a way...
Do you bug them?
Hehehe, totally XD
Do they understand what you are doing to them?
Usually, or my puppy would never have learned to pee on the paper instead of the floor, or how to play fetch or roll over, or run away when she knows she's done something I've scolded her for in the past.
No
Yes =/= no
therefore God exists.
Even if you were right about all of the above (and you're ridiculously wrong) it wouldn't prove that statement.
F minus minus.
Look at a cat from the side view and note that smug looking smile. Yes, they do have a sense of humor and so do dogs. They understand what we do to them and do not appreciate bad jokes.
When I returned from the mountains my feral kitties came running and buzzed me when they heard my voice. They are not nitwits. You are but cats and dogs are not. My indoor kitties gathered around me touching my face with their paws when I was crying over my father's death. Intuitive, loving and smart, they are.
You know what my greatest argument vs atheists is?
That we're the only species on the planet that can use the Internet. Do your cats and dogs use the Internet? Do you tell them useful URLs? Do you check their cache? Do they know not to open attachments? No, therefore God exists.
...That we're the only species on the planet that has a wide selection of breakfast cereals...
...That we're the only species on the planet that can make monumentally stupid logical errors and not necessarily die as a result...
Total logical disconnect ftw.
I had toast for breakfast. Therefore God exists.
Or, more appropriate:
Cardboard is made out of ice. Therefore peas are a type of cloud.
That we're the only species on the planet with a sense of humor.
Wrong
Do your cats and dogs have a sense of humor?
Yes
Do you tell them jokes?
Yes
Do you bug them?
Yes
Do they understand what you are doing to them?
Yes
No, therefore God exists.
Even if the above were all "no", it would not prove that your god exists. At best, it would prove that animals don't have a sense of humor. You fail.
Cats and dogs are not humans, therefore they don't know human language. They might pick up a sound here or there, if it is to their advantage, but they don't UNDERSTAND what we say to them.
Look at birds high in the air, soaring with the rising and falling winds. Then try to tell me they don't have a sense of pleasure, satisfaction, joy.
Therefore God does not exist.
Hey, it's as stupid as your theory.
Well, come on guys, fundies ARE known for their sense of humor!
I thought that's WHY we call the FUN-dies!!
Also, I've been made the victim of feline humor. He thought it would be hilarious to trip me down the stairs. I didn't feed him. He was right to trip me. I should've been a better pet parent!
Oh for fuck's sakes! Cats can't tell jokes so there is a God? Is that what the stupid idiot actually said?
How much lower can they sink in their pathetic attempts to "prove" the existence of their precious creator? You can't post rubbish like that and expect not to be ridiculed.
That's your BEST argument?
Are you Self-Mutation?
Elephants play practical jokes on one another.
So, i guess i now believe in Ganesh?
Confused?
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