Quote# 50990

[From an an article on MSNBC.com about the Christian Right increasing it's attacks on Obama in the final days before the election.]

But among the strongest pieces this year is Focus on the Family Action's letter which has been posted on the group's Web site and making the e-mail rounds. Signed by "A Christian from 2012," it claims a series of events could logically happen based on the group's interpretation of Obama's record, Democratic Party positions, recent court rulings and other trends.

Among the claims:

A 6-3 liberal majority Supreme Court that results in rulings like one making gay marriage the law of the land and another forcing the Boy Scouts to "hire homosexual scoutmasters and allow them to sleep in tents with young boys." (In the imagined scenario, The Boy Scouts choose to disband rather than obey).

A series of domestic and international disasters based on Obama's "reluctance to send troops overseas." That includes terrorist attacks on U.S. soil that kill hundreds, Russia occupying the Baltic states and Eastern European countries including Poland and the Czech Republic, and al-Qaida overwhelming Iraq.

Nationalized health care with long lines for surgery and no access to hospitals for people over 80.

Focus On The Family, MSNBC.com 32 Comments [11/2/2008 1:11:53 AM]
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Knee-jerk much?

11/2/2008 1:25:18 AM

colonel catastrophe

Coming from Europe, where public health care is a standard thing, I don't understand this American fantasy that lines would be horrendous if health services were nationalized. I have never had a problem and the system costs me less personally than the American.

11/2/2008 1:26:39 AM


Well this is a predictable move, to say the least. Just imagine the craziness that will erupt when Obama is actually elected.

I will be watching Rapturd Rejects all election night!

11/2/2008 1:27:28 AM

Old Viking

Consider the source.

11/2/2008 1:29:39 AM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

...Methinks somebody's a weeeee bit crazy.

@ colonel catastrophe: We also have medicare here in Canada, and doctors found they were actually making more after it came out because they didn't have to turn people down.

One states has tried to put in a medicare program for immigrants and poor families who's parents couldn't afford heal insurance for their children, but when people began opting out of insurance so their children would qualify, they took away the program.

11/2/2008 1:30:01 AM


*Heterosexual* Scoutmasters can't sleep with Scouts in tents unless they are the boy's own father, but why should FOTF let facts get in the way of a good rant?

I was amazed at how there were just pages and pages against LGBT people, and then and only then did they get to their dire predictions about the economy and other countries. It kinda made it clear where their priorities were at.

11/2/2008 1:41:18 AM


Considering Obama wants to send troops to Afghanistan to bolster their numbers and actually fight Al Queda on their turf... no.

Considering straight Scout Masters aren't allowed to sleep in the same tents with scouts, why would that issue even come up? Heck, they couldn't legally overturn anything about the BSA unless they first took away their tax-exempt status first. That one is all fantasy. As far as homosexual marriage... I hope so. If only to piss more people off.

Whatever. I've had my nightmare scenario dreams about the other side, but I've rarely dreamed it would happen.

11/2/2008 1:44:38 AM

Mrs. Antichrist

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

11/2/2008 1:54:56 AM


You guys jerk your knees so hard you should make sure you don't smack your heads in the process.

11/2/2008 2:17:02 AM

cheesy fiction ft...oh, nevermind

11/2/2008 3:23:57 AM


"A series of domestic and international disasters based on Obama's "reluctance to send troops overseas." That includes terrorist attacks on U.S. soil that kill hundreds... "

Considering that thousands have died under Bush, the fundies are actually admitting things will be better under Obama?

11/2/2008 3:34:26 AM


Yes, it logically follows that Obama owns the Supreme Court and wants to try to instigate pedophilia.

And that the Supreme Court can even force the Scouts to do that at all.

11/2/2008 3:59:22 AM


Who cares? Nobody in their right mind wants to join boy scouts anyway.

11/2/2008 4:01:57 AM


STFU and focus on yer own damn family!

11/2/2008 4:37:56 AM


the thing on scouts also ignores the fact that the boy scouts of america is pretty much one of the only scouting bodies that prohibits atheists and homosexuals from joining.

Also, the horrendous line if nationalized healthcare would only happen if all private health insurance was disbanded, and the people on nationalized healthcare already need to wait, but quite often end up waiting only to be told that they cannot have the operation they need.

11/2/2008 4:39:05 AM

Angelica Einstellsehn

It's Focus on the Family.

Is anyone really surprised? My mother used to get their newsletter, and yeah, this is pretty damn par for their twisted course.

P.S. Scoutmasters, as has been said, aren't allowed to sleep in the tents not their own offspring's. And you think you'd get bored of homo = pedo after a while, but I guess Dobson has a one-track mind.

11/2/2008 4:43:25 AM

Because "long lines for surgery" doesn't equal "ten hours in the ER for stomach cramps"...oh, wait...

11/2/2008 4:51:14 AM


Someone has been eating then regurgitating the GOP party lines again.

11/2/2008 7:30:51 AM


Bahahaha. Trust US fundies to be unable to look past their own borders.

11/2/2008 9:21:46 AM


The religious right seems to be very desperate about the high probability that McCain and their religious nutjob Palin is not getting elected into office ;)

11/2/2008 9:39:23 AM

a mind far far away

"forcing the Boy Scouts to "hire homosexual scoutmasters and allow them to sleep in tents with young boys" Didn't they already get in trouble several times for that very thing? Dumb fucking fundy.

"Nationalized health care with long lines for surgery and no access to hospitals for people over 80" Why over 80? So we shouldn't be able to provide good health to those who aren't rich? Survival of the richest? I thought christians weren't supposed to worship mammon.

This is some pretty dumb shit. But of course, it's from a conservative fundy christian perspective, so I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.

11/2/2008 11:33:38 AM


"Nationalized health care with long lines for surgery and no access to hospitals for people over 80."

ROFL. Sorry, just ROFL.

The NHS has its problems, but you will get seen (and waiting lists are always falling, year after year) and they have never turned down anyone due to age.

11/2/2008 5:09:39 PM


In Canada we have Nationalised health care. I must admit there are long lines for surgery but I can say from personal experience both as the granddaughter of an 88 year old grandpa and as a worker in a senior's health clinic. There is 100% access for the over 80s in our health care system. Methinks Focus on the Family should do some research before predicting the future (you get more accurate prophesies if you actually know what you're talking about).

11/2/2008 6:01:40 PM

Martha Jones

I lived in the UK for five years, during which I got sick with pneumonia.

I was in a hospital room within ten minutes.

Here in the good ole US, I have an Asthma attack at seven o clock at night, and end up waiting in the ER until two in the morning, and don't get to go home until three in the morning.

11/2/2008 6:25:44 PM

C'mon this is "fuckus in the family", hypocritical republican asslicks par-excellence. When the hell did they care about access to healthcare for anybody while the GOP was making sure that only the rich could get for the last eight years? And they had no problem with American soldiers being killed for GOP war profiteers for the last 6 years, which may be the #1 problem we have with sending soldiers overseas anytime soon.

11/2/2008 7:14:09 PM

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