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My pastor friend went through this about 2 years ago. He spanked his daughter and she reported that he was abusing her. After over a year in court, he was found innocent, but what a mess it made for him financially and for his family. His daughter was a young teen and had been sneaking out of the house at night, running with boys 5 years or more older and he was at his wits end. She now lives with his oldest daughter (who is an adult) and the family is fractured. I know this pastor and his wife quite well and they are wonderful Christian parents. They have 5 kids and this daughter was the only "problem child". It was so painful for them to go through that.

To me, even a couple of bruises are not enough to arrest this father, unless there was a pattern. This country is going down the tubes.

ChristianGal, Rapture Ready 45 Comments [11/2/2008 6:12:08 AM]
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Submitted By: The Lazy One
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anonymous

Once she's a teenager, it's pretty much pedophilia.

Find a better way to abuse your children.

Like, stop feeding them or something.

11/2/2008 6:17:55 AM

The Jamo

Yep, another wonderful christian family. Maybe if your pastor friend wasn't such a bleedin' control freak, his daughter could have experienced a bit of life on her own, learn her lessons and NOT be at odds with her family. The only person at fault here is the parent who thinks that his daughter's life belongs to him.

QED, bitch.

11/2/2008 6:18:57 AM

hmmmm

Bruises are ok unless there's a pattern? What sort of pattern? For example if the bruises look like virgin Mary, would that pattern be ok or not?

11/2/2008 6:34:51 AM

anonymous

@ hmmmm:

It's really in the timing, and whether it spells anything interesting in Morse code.

-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..

11/2/2008 6:49:29 AM

Tired Christian

@hmmmm:
I'm going to assume you're thick considering you didn't leave a sarcasm tag, but I think she meant proof that it wasn't once off.
On another note, this case seems to be a bit screwed up. Since the guy got off, I really hope the girls was lying. the alternative is...well that he got off and now has a REALLY good reason the hit her.
@anonymous:
What does that say, anyway?

11/2/2008 6:50:15 AM

Slayer

@Tired Christian

Buy a new sarcasm detector and get some sleep.

11/2/2008 6:54:19 AM

doomie 22

"To me, even a couple of bruises are not enough to arrest this father"

And that's why you're not a judge.

11/2/2008 6:55:18 AM

CrazyRoper

Why is he spanking his teenage daughter? Do people actually think that does anything to a teenager?

11/2/2008 6:55:25 AM

Mortok

Maybe if he hadn't been repressing her in the first place, she wouldn't have felt the need to act out.

11/2/2008 6:57:27 AM

A Friend

I bet that rev longs for the days of the old testament.

11/2/2008 7:01:41 AM

Jay-Sus

Translation: You're only a good Christain family when you abuse your children for being different and force them to repress everything about themselves so it destroys them inside. Praise the Lord!

11/2/2008 7:09:49 AM

hmmmm

Of course I knew what he meant.

11/2/2008 7:15:15 AM

yusiko

i generally agree with spanking (only used as a last resort of course) but the girl was in her teens.
thats comes off kind of pedoish

11/2/2008 7:16:09 AM

John-in-Oz

If bruising a stranger is good enough reason to arrest him, then bruising his teenage daughter is good enough reason to arrest him.


11/2/2008 7:20:28 AM

Lithp

Return of Lithp: Lithp'th Revength! Coming Thoon, in more wayth than one!

Okay, now that I've dramatically announced my eventual return to commenting (as though any of you even noticed I was gone)m I"d like to comment on this:

Agreed: Once they're teenagers, it's pretty much pedophelia.

Found innocent: What...the fuck...?

Ruined him financially...ruined his family: And you don't blame him even SLIGHTLY? You people have some fucked up priorities, you know that?

Family is Fractured: Gee, could that be because you idiots are wrong about it being "for the greater good," & she's honestly afraid of being abused? It isn't always "a problem child rebelling," you know!

They have 5 kids: So they're breeders. Just keep poppin' out kids, & to Hell with their psychological health, huh? So long as it keeps Jay-Sus Jeezus (sorry there, Jay-sus, didn't see you up there[/lame pun]) happy!

I know this pastor...wonderful Christian parents: The fact that you put the religion of the parent as a prerequisite to being good parents makes you an asshole who WOULD agree with this type of domestic abuse.

Running with boys...wits end: Then maybe he should call the fucking cops if he thinks something's going on, & they could investigate the possibility that they're sexual predators. Although, you know, seeing that she probably goes to Jr. High School, it isn't unheard of for her to have Seniors for friends. This isn't friggin' grade school where you get out every day after lunch & have half an hour to play on the spider jungle gym, you know. In any case, "at wits end" is never an excuse. "Your honor, I killed that man because I needed a drug fix, & my wife left me for him, & he made sexual comments to me at the bar, & he called me an asshole for stalking her & trying to win her back, & I was at my wits end!" "Oh...not guilty!" Yeah. Doesn't happen.

Sneaking out of the house: Take her cell phone, or something.

Couple of bruises...pattern: Okay, so BURST BLOOD VESSELS on one of the more highly sensitive regions of skin isn't a bad thing? And a PATTERN? Are you fuckin' kiddin' me? She has to get the shit beat out of her 3, 4, maybe 5 or more times before he should be arrested? Get the fuck out of here! You have NO idea how prevention works!

This country is going down the tubes: I agree. See the above paragraph, & then promptly GTFO. You & your "wonderful Christian parent" friends. The daughter can stay. And if you don't GTFO, I hope someone makes sure you DIAF.


Ahhh...I think my little vacation has done wonders, & when I come back, I'll finally be able to enjoy my Fundie-bashing once again!

11/2/2008 7:30:04 AM



This could be my Christian father. Except my relationship with my father ended when he tried to RAPE ME as punishment for leaving the bathroom heater on, then sent me to jail for assault when I fought him off. You fucking bitch, you have no conception of what it is like to be on the receiving end of it. It hope you get the shit beat out of you once so you can feel some of that girl's fear and pain and embarassment.

11/2/2008 9:02:50 AM

aaa

When bruises start to appear, you've gone too far.

11/2/2008 9:12:06 AM

agentCDE

I want to hit this person with a stick. And cause bruises.

Only once. I mean, it's only wrong to cause intense pain and damage to someone repeatedly. Or maybe I just can't make any recognizable shapes when applying the beatstick.

11/2/2008 9:25:49 AM

Ash

There. is. no. justification. for. physical. punishment. EVER.

11/2/2008 9:29:43 AM

Atheissimo

Goshdurnit! First it's no slaves, then it's no beating, next they're going to try and make you read books!

11/2/2008 9:51:38 AM

Detrs

Your friend failed as a parent the moment he had to lay hands on his daughter.

11/2/2008 10:51:05 AM

Sylvana

@aaa "When bruises start to appear, you've gone too far."

I couldnt have said it better myself. I have been spanked a couple of times in my life while growing up for bad behaviour, and its NEVER left bruises.

So Yes a couple of bruises are more than enough to arrest the father.

11/2/2008 11:18:19 AM

Illuminatalie

"To me, even a couple of bruises are not enough to arrest this father"

!!!!

11/2/2008 11:45:55 AM

G Zimmer

Eh, the man's a bit clueless on how to discipline his kids, but seriously guys, I rather doubt he's a pedo, although he's trying very hard to look like one.

11/2/2008 11:47:50 AM

a mind far far away

So it begins. The daughter was trying to get away from her batshit insane fundy father pastor asswipe. I'd have reported the bastard too. Just for shits and giggles though.

11/2/2008 12:03:41 PM
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