Quote# 51050
Obama was born in Hawaii
Obama was born with US and KENYA citizenships.
Obama's Kenyon citizenship expired like, what 10 years ago?
The "conflict" here is whether Obama is qualified because the current law states a person cannot be the President if he or she has/had dual citizenships.
Does it also not bother people Obama lied when he stated he's never gone by any other name beside Barack H. Obama? It should. Why would anyone use an alias unless there was reason? I'm not sure but maybe you can ask Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, or Barry Dunham.
The issue is whether Obama is not a natural-born citizen; and/or
Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or
Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.
Numerous questions raised about Obama’s background have no satisfactory answers:
Where was Obama born?
Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada?
School records list Obama as a citizen of Indonesia. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?
Explanation of the names he has used: Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, & Barry Dunham.
Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama, a blatant lie.
Cheechoo,
WoW Offtopic 50 Comments [11/3/2008 2:59:25 PM]
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#745173
GreenEyedLilo
The "Barry" thing amuses me. Has this person never heard of a nickname or a child trying to fit in?
Or stepfathers or children being raised with grandparents in their home or bureaucratic errors, for that matter?
11/3/2008 3:01:40 PM
#745184
Daken
I think this needs to be put in CTSTDT
11/3/2008 3:07:37 PM
#745188
Eden
Well, obviously he had kenyan citizenship thanks to his father (as well as US citizenship of course):
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html
He automatically lost it when he became 21 because Kenyan laws don´t allow dual citizenships for adults
11/3/2008 3:09:28 PM
#745190
Lucilius
"The issue" is, he's black, not a right-wing fanatic, sand going to win – so Cheechoo and so many others are willing to believe any derogatory story other bigots can dream up, without a shred of evidence. "Numerous questions raised about Obama's background" have been answered and answered and answered, but just like evolution and the fallibility of the Bible, they love to shut their eyes and say, "I don't see any evidence, so it must not be there."
11/3/2008 3:10:05 PM
#745193
Mortok
The only reason you can't find any satisfactory answers is because you don't want to.
11/3/2008 3:10:43 PM
#745201
Darwin
If I were you I would concern myself more with brains than birth records.
Just a suggestion.
11/3/2008 3:15:56 PM
#745214
Xotan
Would you allow Jesus to be president?
What citizenship/nationality did Jesus have, then?
11/3/2008 3:28:25 PM
#745222
LadyJafaria
If my middle name was Hussein and everyone in the fucking world was giving me shit for it, I'd probably take an alias too. Can't have it both ways, fundietards: can't say "His real name means he's a terrorist" and "His fake name means he has something to hide!" Yeah, a real name that people call him a terrorist for, maybe?
11/3/2008 3:38:01 PM
#745226
breakerslion
Whatever.
11/3/2008 3:39:43 PM
#745227
colonel catastrophe
So where did this Canada thing come from...? It's like he just threw it in for the hell of it.
11/3/2008 3:40:32 PM
#745229
anonymous
Canada?
How does that even...
11/3/2008 3:42:34 PM
#745235
Slayer
Is there any law against people with dual citizenships becoming president? The only restrictions on the presidency I have seen are:
*at least 35 years old
*a natural-born citizen
*lived in the United States at least 14 years
Obama was born with American citizenship, thus natural-born citizen. He is at least 35 and has lived here for at least 14 years. He qualifies.
11/3/2008 3:49:28 PM
#745244
Dan Onymous
So Cheechoo, if that is your real name, are you really saying that sticking your fingers in your ears and going, "la-la-la-la-la" is the same as "Numerous questions raised about Obama’s background have no satisfactory answers"?
11/3/2008 3:53:52 PM
#745245
lolmax
I love the way they will write out page long diatribes on why Obama will not get their vote when if they were brave enough to be honest, they could say it all in one sentence: "He's black."
11/3/2008 3:57:37 PM
#745264
John
Obama never went by any other name for the purposes of the law. Barry is a nickname, just like Bill is William J. Clinton's nickname. I highly doubt he ever "used" Barry, in the sense of signing a document. You don't lose your citizenship unless you renounce it, which you only can do after you're eighteen. Indonesian school records have no legal standing. Plenty of Americans qualify for citizenship in other countries - for example, I think you can claim Italian citizenship if you have one grandfather born in Italy.
11/3/2008 4:12:14 PM
#745271
Lucretius
Alright already we get it
Obama is a black man
11/3/2008 4:18:33 PM
#745280
myheadhurts
Cheechoo, if that is your real name, get a clue.
11/3/2008 4:42:14 PM
#745298
Philbert McAdamia
Who could ever put trust or faith in a person who uses multiple names? Not like Jesus. I mean Yeshua. Or Emanuel. Or is it Christ? Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus bin Miriam, Iesu, YehoShua, Jerusalem Slim...
(Sorry, I'm limited here - this guy has been called such a huge list of names my computer freezes when I log onto the sites.)
11/3/2008 5:03:28 PM
#745301
toothache
Are you bearing false witness against thine neighbour?
11/3/2008 5:06:06 PM
#745308
Mister Spak
Faux news is lying to you.
11/3/2008 5:11:31 PM
#745310
Brain_In_A_Jar
Obama was born with US and KENYA citizenships.
Obama's Kenyon citizenship expired like, what 10 years ago?
The "conflict" here is whether Obama is qualified because the current law states a person cannot be the President if he or she has/had dual citizenships.
So, the kenyan citizenship expired 10 years ago, that means he's now exclusively a US citizen. You say the president has to be exclusively a US citizen. Where's the fucking conflict?
11/3/2008 5:12:29 PM
#745311
Lucretius
And Gerald Rudolf Ford was doubtless know by some as Jerry Ford and was initially called Leslie Lynch King, Jr. until his mother remarried
In other words so what ?
11/3/2008 5:13:37 PM
#745318
Redneck Bimbo Governor
"Hawaii, an island off Hawaii"
You do know that Hawaii consists of more than one island?
11/3/2008 5:23:03 PM
#745330
Pagnostic
CTSTDT, not fundie
11/3/2008 5:45:58 PM
#745340
Asuka
Obama was born in Hawaii
Hawaii's a state in the Union and has been since 1959, you freaking moron.
Obama was born with US and KENYA citizenships.
His father was Kenyan.
Obama's Kenyon citizenship expired like, what 10 years ago?
Try 30 years or so. Kenya doesn't allow dual citizenship for adults. His expired when he turned 21.
The "conflict" here is whether Obama is qualified because the current law states a person cannot be the President if he or she has/had dual citizenships.
Last I checked, you had to be a natural-born citizen, at least 35, and had to live in the US for at least 14 years. I don't remember anything about dual citizenship so I'm going to assume you pulled that one out of your ass until you prove otherwise.
11/3/2008 6:07:20 PM
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