[part of a long rant]
YES ON 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES. as to the comments that we should be ashamed of ourselves and that this is 2008 not 1908 i have this to say. first im not at all ashamed but proud and very happy to see that there are still many people in california that have some bit of morality left. and no we are not closed minded maybe the supporters of "NO" are the ones that are closed minded, and let me explaine why. i see many interviews and one of the things that gets left out alot is this. Marriage is a UNION between man, woman, and GOD period. that is the purpose of marriage. a man and a woman join and become one under GOD. and GOD does not join MAN AND MAN.(he will love them and show grace to them at his discretion, but will not join them.if im wrong show me in the bible where it says this) and yes marriage has gone through alot of changes and its traditional value has decreased some, but at least we have drawn the line. and like harry used to say the buck stops here. as to the argument that we are discriminating against gays- i ask what and in what way?
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"as to the argument that we are discriminating against gays- i ask what and in what way?"
As to the argument that christians are being discriminated, I ask what and in what way?
"Marriage is a UNION between man, woman, and GOD period."
So I can't get married because I don't believe in God?
Marriage is a UNION between man, woman, and GOD period.
Says who? Which god? Isn't poligamy wrong? What about the non religious?
that is the purpose of marriage.
No. The "purpose" of marriage is two people who "love" each other.
as to the argument that we are discriminating against gays- i ask what and in what way?
If someone banned you from marring the woman you love, wouldn't you call it "disriminating"?
"Marriage is a UNION between man, woman, and GOD period."
So, let me see if I understand you correctly.
*scratches his head for a few seconds, then continues*
You define marriage as a menage-a-trois between a man, a woman, and an entity which has always been described as male.
(Yes, I deliberately chose those words, just as you deliberately choose the words "gay marriage" to describe the issue at hand here because it usually evokes in the minds of listeners the image of gay sex, which is done to make the notion of marriage equality squick the living daylights out of them.)
By that definition, all of you "good Christian men" who form such a relationship willingly aren't even remotely heterosexual.
But, wait...I thought all you "good Christian men" were fighting tooth and nail against the rights of non-straights to be who they are, or in the case of some of you, even to exist. Come on now, Vanorge. Make up your mind; which is it?
The passing of Proposition 8 is a huge step backwards for equal rights.
Sooner or later it'll be fixed, but I'm disappointed.
"as to the argument that we are discriminating against gays- i ask what and in what way?"
You're preventing every gay person in California from celebrating their love for whomsoever they may be in love with. If someone told you you couldn't get married to the love of your life, ever, you'd be pretty fucking pissed off too.
And I'm with Bored One-time Poster on this one. Prop 8 is pretty unconstitutional and will probably be shot down in the Supreme Court (and will eventually be overturned anyway as this is how civil rights issues always play out) but the fact that the majority of Californians - even a slight majority - voted in favour of prop 8 is enormously disappointing.
I'm offended that prop 8 was even allowed to be put to vote. Seriously WTF? If someone tried to pass prop 666 banning christians from leaving their homes without a ball gag and an armed escort there would be an outcry. I think everyone who voted yes on prop 8 should be sodomised with a cactus.
As for Vanorge: go sodomize yourself with a cactus. Then have a lemon juice enema.
"Marriage is a UNION between man, woman, and GOD"
sO WHILE YOU FUCK THE WOMAN gOD FUCKS YOU IN THE ASS?
It's like a bisexual version of the man-train.
Marriage is a UNION between man, woman, and GOD period
so it's a menage a trois. what happens if your an athiest?
You and Harry Truman are on a first name basis now?
"Marriage is a UNION between man, woman, and GOD period." Hmmm...did anyone start thinking about the Trinity in a completely dirty way there?
By trying to keep gay people from getting married like you straight people are allowed to, Vanorge!
It's bad when bigots like this discriminate, but it's even worse when they try to pass it off as non-discriminatory.
[and yes marriage has gone through alot of changes and its traditional value has decreased some, but at least we have drawn the line.]
Exactly what they probably said to prevent interracial marriage as well. Good job Vanorge for not proving your point.
Marriage is a UNION between man, woman, and GOD period.
Totally open-minded. ... Seriously, do you know what open-minded means???
How are you discriminating against gays? How about I take away your right to marriage because of something you can't control. I'm obviously not discriminating though. You're just bringing society down.
Will these morons EVER learn that there have ALWAYS been same-sex marriages in cultures around the world? Its not like this is some new thing that breaks the rules of every culture everywhere.
It happened in the Ming and Zhou Dynasties of China, Nero and Elagabalus both married men, the Ju/'hoansi (or !Kung) people used to practice woman-woman marriages quite commonly.
Marriage has NOT always been "one man one woman" and god? Beliefs in deities, or even a religious institution like a church, are entirely unnecessary for the secular marriages that take place in Western society anyways
"YES ON 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES. as to the comments that we should be ashamed of ourselves and that this is 2008 not 1908 i have this to say. first im not at all ashamed but proud and very happy to see that there are still many people in california that have some bit of morality left." tl;dr...
...meanwhile on Planet Reality, just three years later Prop. 8 is overturned in California. PROTIP: The US Constitution makes absolutely no mention of marriage, nor even a 'God', 'Jesus' or so much as the word 'Creator' therein.
Your argument is invalid.
Moral: Not only life...:
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...oh, and 'Morality'? You can't handle Morality! [/"A Few Good Men"]
Usually, when people say "this is 2008, not 1908", they mean that there has been progress since then, not that we're still on the exact same spot as then.
Isn't God seen as male? Then He always join MAND AND MAN and woman, according to your strange scenario.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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