Assisted suicide passed here in Washington state. (this allows people to have lethal injections to end their lives if they are fighting an illness)
How SICK is this?!
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How about you take a walk through an assisted living home or a hospital for that matter. Take a look at the people who can't hold in their own shit of their own volition because they're crippled by a terminal illness, but mentally they are perfectly fine, and they want out. Or how about an individual suffering from the chronic pain of an incurable disease? Yes, allowing people to die with some dignity intact is SO sick.
How about these hypocritical death cultists who pretend they want more than anything to shed this vale of tears and go suck some jesus ass up close and personal, yet if somebody comes along that really means he wants off the planet, they can't stand it.
I love this gem from the user Rebecki later on:
Life is no longer honored. Babies and the elderly suffer the most.
You keep using that word, "suffer". I do not think it means what you think it means.
Oh no! People are allowed to end their lives on their own terms instead of spending months bed-ridden and on pain medication while slowly dying of cancer. Well, next thing you know, we will be eating human flesh and using other people's living rooms as toilets. The end is nigh, people!
Yes, it's so sickening to allow a person to choose to die peacefully instead of in agonizing pain.
I hope you get a painful terminal illness. I hope you're denied the right to a peaceful death. I hope you're put in the position of the person who's right to control their own body you want to deny.
And no. I am not joking. Get cancer and die a slow, agonizing death that drags on for years after rendering you helpless. And then explain to God why you chose to say it wasn't right for people who experienced that to be able to choose not to go through it.
Assisted suicide passed here in Washington state. (this allows people to have lethal injections to end their lives if they are fighting an illness)
Not long ago I was suffering an undiagnosed illness that caused extreme nausea, near-non-stop gagging and dry-heaving, vomiting, diarrhea, and a total inability to consume solid food without suffering the most horrendous consequences. After 5 years, I finally broke down into tears and begged my wife to kill me.
Speaking as the voice of experience, anyone who is suffering past their endurance should have the right to end their lives in whatever way is most convenient for them. If my wife hadn't hidden my psych meds at one point I would have overdosed myself. Until you've reached that point of complete desperation you have no reason to interject your opinion into this debate, so f*** you.
Just to nitpick, the law is based on Oregon's law, and like the law in that state, I believe the method is not a lethal injection, but a prescription for a lethal dose of pills, which the patient must be able to take himself (herself). The doctor cannot provide any more active assistance than that, nor can anyone else. And thank goodness for it! Given the history of cancer in my family, I can look into the future and see the possibility of needing it myself some day.
It is interesting to note that more people in Oregon receive the drugs than actually use them. Sometimes just having the option is enough. Isn't that what we all want--choices, at every stage of our lives?
By all means, saved, if you want to suffer every last excruciating minute of your "natural life," even if you are in such agony that morphine barely takes the edge off, feel free. What I don't understand is why you think you have the right to make that choice for me. If God turns out to exist, and God has a problem with it, then it is between me & God, and I'll take my chances and take the consequences. It's none of your bloody business at all.
I've always been a bit leery of assisted suicide myself. It's too easy for a doctor to murder someone and then claim after the fact that it was an AS. After all, it's his word against the patient's--whoops, patient's dead. Guess you'll have to trust the doctor.
Personally, I think we should devote more research to cures for those diseases, and in the meantime, provide better pain medication to people with severe illnesses.
We put dogs out of their misery, but not people. I think it makes more sense to euthanize people because they can decide for themselves to end it. If a person is definitely going to die, why make them suffer?
saved and filled (with shite) is the sick one.
I am crippled with MS. I am still enjoying life and have no plans to off myself at the present time ... BUT it's such a comfort to know that I will have the option if the time comes. (I've already put aside enough for one one-way ticket and one two-way flight (for a caregiver) to Holland, where they do it right.)
I'll remember you said that when you're dying in agony in a hospital bed (no morphine for you either after all it will interfere with god's plan for you).
I only wish assisted suicide had been available for my grandmother. Fortunately she had a relatively painless death but we all would have benefited from her going with a bit of dignity.
@Amanda: To nitpick, *everyone*'s definitely going to die.
@The L: That's very true, and it's one reason why I'm leery of completely unrestricted abortion too - it can lead to eugenic stuff if the poor have disproportionately more abortions.
How sick is it that in the rest of the country (Oregon excluded), people are forced to stay alive when their dignity and self-reliance has been lost? You have no say coming into this world...you should have a say in going out if you can. Especially in the cases where assisted suicide is necessary. Watch "On Our Own Terms." Google it, and I think you can watch it on PBS. Learn something.
Um, no, it's not as simple as that!
It allows people who are TERMINALLY ILL, with SEVERAL PHYSICIANS AGREEING on it, the legal right to terminate their lives to permit an end to pointless suffering.
It is designed to allow mentally competant people, living in pain, the right to die with dinity. Which is why I voted for it. It is not the same as Hitler's eugenic's program, which is what they are afraid it is.
And I agree that insurance companies who would rather pay for a person to die than to pay for terminally ill cancer are bad people. One anti-suicide ad featured an Oregon woman who had just that happen to her, and her "dying wish" for for the people of Washington to vote no on it. What happened to her is not a good example of why the assisted suicide should pass, because it is sickening.
Slow agonizing death or a merciful shot to put them out of their misery. Only a Fundie would choose (for others) the first
This is why Mother Tereasa has a tarnished image after her death. She was from a sect of Catholics that believed in suffering
Eh, OK. I'm still not comfortable with it - it gives doctors too much power (if the person's dead, who can say what really happened?) Also, the issue with insurance companies finding it cheaper to pay for a lethal shot...
(If it's so controversial, why don't they just use stronger painkillers? If the person is definitely terminally ill, surely the risk is not an issue...)
To everyone who is having doubts about this, it is really regulated.
You have to be a legal resident of Washington state.
You have to be declared terminally ill by at least 2 seperate doctors.
You have to be determined sound of mind. You can't be depressed or insane.
And, the doctor is not allowed to administer the drugs. They give you the prescription but you have to go and pick it up and then take the drugs yourself.
Oregon has had the same thing for 11 years and to date only 341 people have used it. I promise it won't turn into some dramatic act where insurance companies force people to use it.
As God said in <Book> <Chapter>:<Verse> :No, I'd prefer you suffer, for it amuses me, for I am the LORD.
This seemed appropriate:
I can't remember anything
Now that the war is through with me
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Back in the womb it's much too real
Fed through the tube that sticks in me
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Now the world is gone I'm just one
Hold my breath as I wish for death
Darkness imprisoning me
Landmine has taken my sight
How SICK is this?!
Beyond sick = dead.
Yes, how horrible that they allow people to die with some dignity, as opposed to withering away, hoping to be free of their suffering. Utterly reprehensible. I truly hope you never outlive your desire to live.
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