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Quote# 51783

Jesus never had any free will.
(Post 24)

God does not possess free will in the same way that humans once had it (then all lost it throught the Fall and some have regained it through the new birth). I will give you your due that God is free to do what He wills.
(Post 36)

royalcrompton, h2g2 23 Comments [11/10/2008 10:46:54 AM]
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#759246
Grigori Yefimovich

Hello? Is this your first day here? That's nice.

Here is a friend for you. He's called Calvin, and he lives at Christian Clarity. Off you go and have a nice little chat. You can have some milk and biscuits later.

[I... I don't know why I wrote that. I couldn't help myself. It's as if it were predestined...]

11/10/2008 10:59:59 AM
#759253
Jack Bauer

Chicken soup!

Things are always supposed to get better with chicken soup.

I don't like chicken soup, particularly the cheap supermarket brand ones.

Can things also get better with cream of mushroom soup? Despite the fact that it usually looks like baby puke...

Did I exercise Free Will (TM) by writing the above? I have not been born again... There are serious doubts about my original birth - Ah wuz born to be bad - bad as that there Leroy Brown... He one mofo of a serious bad dude.

11/10/2008 11:11:38 AM
#759264
Psittacosis

The devil made me do it!

11/10/2008 11:25:08 AM
#759284
Onan the Barbarian

So God is Dr. Manhattan?

11/10/2008 11:44:08 AM
#759291


Doesn't this create a rather large hole in Christian theology?

1) Non-believers go to Hell unless they become believers.
2) Non-believers have no free will.
3) Lacking free will, non-believers cannot decide to become believers themselves.

11/10/2008 11:49:50 AM
#759293
Mortok

Wait a minute. We don't have any free will unless we go through your phoney-baloney spiritual rejuvenation process? But if we don't have free will, then whether or not we decide to do it is already pre-determined, which means all the people God sends to hell really had no way of getting out of it.

And you believe in this guy?

11/10/2008 11:53:15 AM
#759345
afacelessatheist

Calvinism is so fucking stupid.

11/10/2008 12:35:55 PM
#759380
a mind far far away

Jacobus Arminius would disagree with you. So would John Wesley, Charles Fox Parham, the church fathers, and countless other christian theologians who don't accept John Calvin's doctrine. But this is new. Applying Calvinism not only to humans, but to god as well? That's interesting. Bullshittery, but interesting.

11/10/2008 12:58:30 PM
#759404
Mr Smith

I will give you your due that God is free to do what He wills.

A perfect being isn't capable of doing anything.

11/10/2008 1:27:38 PM
#759407
dg

"God does not possess free will" ... "God is free to do what He wills."

Odd (and un-Biblical) as Calvinism is, it at least is internally consistent!

11/10/2008 1:30:52 PM
#759442
Cap'n Mel

I have just one thing to say.

FUCK GOD.

Thank you.

11/10/2008 2:24:43 PM
#759448
anonymous

Free will doesn't exist, and God is dead.

This is not difficult to understand.

11/10/2008 2:30:00 PM
#759496
Grigadil

Stop capitalising his name. He's simply a bloodlusting, foreskin-munching, misogynist little goblin who SAYS he is god.

I wouldn't trust that one to build a decent doghouse, much less the Cosmos.

11/10/2008 3:38:54 PM
#759499
practical_god

Yes, yes. God indeed IS Dr. Manhattan.

Or, you know, the other way around. Whichever works.

11/10/2008 3:40:52 PM
#759503
JohnTheAtheist

Yes, the evidence for this is clear.

11/10/2008 3:41:32 PM
#759531
Funnyguts

Pfft. I figured out that God can't have free will years ago.

11/10/2008 3:56:22 PM
#759573
GigaGuess

Whaaaaaaat?!

11/10/2008 4:18:09 PM
#759602
Illuminatalie

That is so true. Now, time for your meds.

11/10/2008 4:36:29 PM
#759636
aaa

Wha?

11/10/2008 4:48:52 PM
#760077
Shadoboy

Poor Jesus must be sick of his fanboys.

11/10/2008 7:47:30 PM
#760145
atrasicarius

If by "free will" you mean "no free will", then yes.

11/10/2008 8:13:59 PM
#760375
Old Viking

This is why theology is fast becoming a national craze.

11/10/2008 10:06:05 PM
#760523
Eden

If we take into account the belief of many fundamentalists, that god is omniscient, it is the logical conclusion that god cannot have a free will.
After all with this knowledge god also know in advance, what he will do and therefore will be forced to do what he has seen he will do, or create a Paradoxon :D

11/10/2008 11:41:53 PM
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