Call me pessimistic, but I don't see Obama overlooking homeschoolers for very long. Just curious, what would you do if homeschooling is declared illegal during the next 4 years?
Move to another country?
Homeschool anyway and take your chances?
Enroll in private school?
Enroll in public school?
Other?
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I vote "other." Kill the brats so they can get into heaven immediately no more waiting for the Rupture, no living in this horrible sinful world so full of temptations that could send them to Hell. If their "education" is limited to fundy homeskooling, it's not like they're going to have much of a life here anyway.
I would really like to see the mental image the RapRetards have of "B. Hussein Obama Bin Laden". I can literally envision them imagining BHObama in bed with OBLaden plotting the downfall of civilization.
How about this, Raptards, go next door and visit a neighbor who is reading a story to his child, or something similar. Even if he isn't "saved", he is still just a normal person like everyone else.
Rinse, repeat. As you go along, you might eventually break out of your narrow-minded microcosm of existence, and find out that there is more to the world, and to life, than waiting for the Rapture!
it's unfortunate that the people who want to homeschool are the exact people who shouldn't be doing it, and the ones who could benefit most from it are too lazy.
i was homeschooled by a stupid person, but lucky enough to have gotten enough time on my own to understand how retarded it all was.
I'd encourage you to leave the country, MidnightCry, but I'd not wish you on another.
Maybe we should set up a system of testing people who want to homeschool their kids to see if they're qualified? Maybe a parents' workshop and licensing system or something?
Nobody is going to ban homeschooling. Ever.
In fact, to use your own flawed arguments, the Founding Fathers were all homeschooled (public education in the U.S. didn't even exist until the 1840's), so why would any True American want to abolish it?
I doubt Obama would do that, I think he would respect the fact that others just want to homeschool their child, in some cases it's very understandable. In other cases, I don't see the point. Like, for religion, if you want your kid to learn "the truth" enroll them in a private school, if you can afford it, at least they're getting educated from trained teachers. Unless you child is failing too much in public schools and you want to homeschool them, then I find it understandable and acceptable.
As a parent who home schools for completely secular reasons, I'm not worried about Obama taking that right away from me. I wouldn't mind seeing a bit more regulation over it. Here in the state of Georgia all that's required is a Declaration of Intent, submitting monthly attendance records, two standardized tests - one in third grade and one in junior high - and the parent having a high school diploma or GED.
Also, I would have no problem expecting home schooling families to adhere to a similar curriculum as the public school system. There is nothing wrong with the curriculum. It's over crowded schools and lack of time for teachers to assist students falling behind or challenge for students who grasp concepts quicker than their peers.
Doubt it. But obviously we need to make sure the kids are meeting level requirements
From what I've been reading on this site it needs looking into. Low word skills, warped understanding of history, intolerance and religious nonsense
What gets me is that these people have the notion that when JC returns to rule the world, they are going to be helping him? A sort of Retard World Police (fuck, yeah...)?
Don't they realise that JC reckons that they are just a bunch of whacko 'tards and he is way too cool a dude to have anything to do with them...
...why the hell would Obama want to outlaw homeschooling? What has homeschooling ever done to him?
Oh, that's right...it's the only way you pathetic fucktards can manage to totally shield your children from reality. Fuck you with a rusty knife.
~The Homeschooled Atheist~
I went to a real public school during the day, and at night, my parents read to me or my father had me do flashcards when I was in about 2nd grade to learn arithmetic. So you can still be a part of your kids' lives, just not the only part. BTW, they may make friends at recess.
If you are really worried about this then make yourselves credible. Confederacies are for the most part ineffective because of how disjointed they are. Maybe set up some sort of cohesion with a framework for all families who want to home school. Put in some strictly enforced standards on who is eligible to home school just like they do with teachers who wish to ply their trade in the outside world.... you know that place beyond your front door.
Anyway, this works for both of us, as the majority of fundie parents will be ineligible to teach (point for me), and the educated well meaning ones will still get their way and their creepy kids won't be witnessing or exposing themselves or what ever you call it to the other children (point for you and again point for me).
The first one left me laughing.
Isn't it one of the tenets of American Fundies that America is "God's Country"?
I'd love to see them try to export their religious fundamentalism and love of guns to a foreign country... Oh wait! They could go to Pakistan!
Then again... all the anti-Islamic rhetoric American fundies are constantly throwing around may prevent them from doing that.
There's room for compromise here. If you want to homeschool you should be required to:
-Get your teaching degree first.
-Prove just cause (child is training for Olympics, or a professional performer, is disabled, or has problems in a school environment, school district has to much violence, or has lost it's accreditation, family lives in isolated area, anything other than religious or political beliefs)
-Agree to home visits once a month from school district representative. (my biggest concern with HS is child abuse going undetected)
-Agree to minimum state curriculum requirements.
-Agree to have child report to nearby public school at least once a term for standardized testing.
I don't think that's too much to ask.
I'm not going to call you pessimistic, I'm going to call you paranoid.
No, wait, I'm going to call you batshit fucking insane paranoid.
Being an Atheist, I'd send my kids to state schools. Because I know they'd be given a decent education. As in where they're encouraged to think for themselves. I speak from experience.
Thus is why, if homeschooling was banned worldwide overnight, and enrolling in purely secular educational establishments was compulsory, I wouldn't lose any sleep.
After all - if you fundies want religion interfering in school/college, we Atheists want science in church (with all preachers replaced by the likes of Richard Dawkins).
Deal?
...meanwhile, the extremely secular China - with it's unlimited pool of non-'hoemskuled' talent pouring out of the universities & into the tech companies' R&D departments will be coming up with desktop-sized Quantum Computers, and the like.
But hey, McDonald's, Burger King, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell et al need all the monkeys paid peanuts counter staff they can get, to cope with the influx of Chinese-employed highly educated, in Chinese-owned companies that'll pour into their branches.
...and no, I don't want fries with that, MidnightCry(YourselfToSleep), I have to get back to Lenovo UK, as we're this close to perfecting the laptop-sized Quantum computer.
Yeah, its not like he would have to deal with a crumbling economy, two foreign wars, crippled public trust and the complete loss of respect for the US in the eyes of the world. No, he'd have plenty of time to attend to your precious homeschooling.
I'd bet you'd be looking back on this and kicking yourself for being such an idiot. At least, you would if you or your lot had any capacity for self reflection.
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