(This time he chose as the best answer an answer he disagreed with but still ranked it as 5 stars)
Why are Christian WOMEN so afraid of their God-ordained ROLES?
GOD created man and woman for seperate purposes. Man is the primary breadwinner, woman is his helpmeet. What is so scary about that? Why do women reject the idea of submission to men if it is in God's plan??
"God made me a strong-willed, independent woman with a mind of her own. If he had a designated "role" for me that was nothing more than a slave to a man, he wouldn't have made me this way.
You have some serious issues."
No Rachel God did not make you that way stop using God as an excuse for your depravity.
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So you´re a man SbG, I already guessed it. As usual the principal supporters of a suppressive system are those who most profit from it.
Is your self-esteem so low, that you cannot endure living together with women who don´t see men as their god-given masters?
Too bad if you cannot. Maybe then you should migrate to some of the few countries where the Shariah is law, as in a western country you won´t find too many women who like to be dominated by you.
See, I don't accept that God (assuming it exists) did have it has 'His' plan. The bible sez that alright, but the bible was written by, gosh - MEN! There's no way it was written/inspired etc by God, so it has no relevance to how I live my life.
Just like it says the Jews are the Chosen People but it was written by, gosh - JEWS!
What ARE the odds?
So anyway, in summary, you haven't proven that it's God's plan at all.
(Even if it was, doesn't mean we have to follow it, but that's another discussion!)
Shit if I had treated my wife like this she would have left me a long time ago.
Maybe this is why the divorce rate is so high with xians.
A help meet is an equal partner not a surrogate or a concubine but hey I guess when you take your advice from misogyny goat herders, then it is no wonder.
Actually it is rather depraved to insist that women are not the equal of men and should bow to every male whim and serve. Grace, it is you who are the depraved one, really. In fact, I suspect you are a man manquerading as a woman. Like drag much?
Lucky you, if you encountered one of those submissive helpmeets from the Bible, Deborah, she might cut off your nuts and feed them to you
If I am going to basically enslave half of the population I need more then just your opinion that this is what god intended. In fact, I would like to start by seeing any evidence, any at all, for god's existence. Otherwise, I will have to conclude that you are a complete and utter douchebag.
Of course not. God just gave her free will, the country she lives in probably upheld that free will, and SHE decided she wanted to be independent.
What have you got against free will?
Because I fucking hate cooking and I don't like taking care of children, either. I can clean, and I'll be glad to chill at home instead of working at that godawful call center, but I won't be doing any of this chained-to-the-stove shit.
Why are Christian MEN so afraid of their God-ordained ROLES? GOD meant men to be hunters and warriors. Why do so many men spend large parts of their lives on higher education or clamour for cushy office jobs? Why do so many men clamour for peace and quiet and watching TV with a can of beer in hand? A man who does not spend their waking hours studying the Bible, with a rifle, bazooka or a light anti-aircraft missile launcher control panel in their hand - continuously thinking of the next prey or the next confirmed kill of a sworn enemy of the GOD's nation - is hardly a man at all. What is so scary about that? Why do men reject the idea of dominating the entire planet, if it clearly is in GOD's plan?
...I'm sure you can't disagree with logic like this. Do you see where this leads to? I *sure* hope so.
Well, if God explains the reasons for this, with reference to how they apply to a modern lifestyle where many of the costs of living are reduced (in terms of child raising and likelihood of children dying for example) then I might consider it. As it happens, I would require more than arbitrary rules to live a life that would make me personally very miserable.
I don't understand how some men find "submissive" women to be attractive. Are they that threatened by a woman who needs to be treated as an equal? One of the things I love most about my wife is that she's strong willed and independent. No accounting for taste, I guess, but I still think it's just insecurity on the parts of the man AND the woman. The man has a toy and the woman doesn't have to think for herself.
If god didn't make her that way, how can she be that way? Or does god make mistakes?
What I find really funny is that most men who want a submissive wife are not strong enough or capable enough to actually handle the position of "head of household". Instead they're looking for a mommy they can fuck.
Y'know, I am not a man-basher, but I am a believer in EQUALITY. Man & Woman are meant to be help-meets of each other, partners, commrades, 50-50, equals. My one gripe about guys is....why are you guys so chicken, insecure & frightened of a strong, noble woman who's equal to you. If this threatens you so badly, I'd say men are, emotionally the "weaker sex". Also, a strong, liberated woman can still be feminine & female. And why do you fear the so-called "feminization or society"? We need a lot more Yin to offset the Yang. Societies whith a strong feminine presence tend to be more civilized, less violent & refined. In my opinion Masculinity needs a good bit of civilizing. There is such a thing as Civilized Masculinity. The world needs to lean the "Way Of The Feminine", a path of strength, nobility, kindness, unity & beauty. Male & Female need to be equals & feminitity must be respected. Feminitity makes Masculinity civilized, noble & intellectual & Masculinity makes femininity noble & strong. Woman guides Man & Man guides Woman. Sexism is "Satanic"!
@zazugrey: I don't understand it either. I would never want a man who was ignorant, listless, stupid, and completely submissive as my husband. Note to fundie men: your taste in women does not make you look more masculine and powerful. Instead, it makes you look pathetic, insecure, and desperate.
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