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#117721
Adrian
What would happen if I proved to you that living things are made out of matter and not energy, so the Laws of Therymodynamics don't apply to their physical evolution, just their metobolic pathways. And if you notice, a certin amount of energy is lost as heat during metabolism, so it does work with the 2nd Law.
12/11/2006 2:19:00 AM
#391764
cyborgtroy
Cars can't drive because the friction between the wheels and the ground would make them stop!
1/26/2008 9:26:13 PM
#1342358
Big One
Perhaps I should le you know about the nuclear reactor floating in the sky. Meet the sun.
10/21/2011 1:49:49 AM
#1342399
David B.
It doesn't matter if there's a Sun in our sky or not, nor even if the Earth were an isolated system, the 2LOT doesn't apply to evolution because it only talks about the state of the system, not of the components therein.
A bacterium isn't at a "higher energy level" than a mammal, but then neither is the fertilised mammalian egg from which every mammal developed. Just living and growing represents a decrease in entropy, for the individual, and is achieved through a compensating increase in entropy of the environment, i.e. eating and breathing.
Even an isolated, sunless Earth could have growing and evolving life upon it. All that is necessary is that it not be at maximum entropy, i.e. equilibrium, which we can clearly observe is true.
10/21/2011 5:00:58 AM
#1342410
Dharmabum
Watching fundies try to talk science is like watching a squid try to carve a Thanksgiving turkey.
10/21/2011 5:15:57 AM
#1342522
rw23
No, I'm suggesting that mammals have more efficient organs of respiration and digestion. Highly specialised ones, in fact. We even use bacteria to help us gain energy from food.
10/21/2011 11:16:43 AM
#1342576
Grigadil
Lifeforms are not 'closed thermodynamic systems', since they take in food energy.
10/21/2011 2:33:38 PM
#1397991
Quantum Mechanic
lol
4/30/2012 9:00:10 AM
#1513602
Saringuy
Creationists: denying the existence of the sun.
3/9/2013 7:33:47 AM
#1513632
xyz
Correction: Jedi_Templar doesn't even understand the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
3/9/2013 10:26:23 AM
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