this wiccan goes into a babtist church and starts preaching about the Mother......
and gets beaten to death by the true Xians (TM)
11/22/2008 10:31:16 AM
This took place in the UK. I agree, the PCSO (a civilian volunteer, not a police officer) was probably wrong to stop the Christians evangelizing, and the Police admitted it. OK, the preachers were acting idiotically but being an idiot isn't a criminal offence. That said, the Police (and I suppose by extension PCSOs) are charged with 'keeping the Queen's peace' and stopping behavior that could possibly start a disturbance is in keeping with that.
Edit: having checked, I see that PCSOs have only the following powers
Issuing of fixed penalty notices (e.g. riding on footpath; dog fouling; litter).
Power to confiscate alcohol and tobacco.
Power to demand the name and address of a person acting in an anti-social manner.
Power of entry to save life or prevent damage.
Removal of abandoned vehicles.
So it seems the PCSO was acting ultra vires. The problem the fundies seem to have here is that the PCSO involved was only reprimanded, not punished more harshly. As PCSOs are part-time volunteers I guess it's hard to be more severe, they can just quit.
11/22/2008 10:41:04 AM
@Michael - have you a citation for that figure - I'd be VERY interested to know more about that. (i.e. the 1600+ people killed per day by Christians). Thanks!
11/22/2008 11:07:11 AM
"There are so-called Human Rights tribunals in Canada that have worried many believers here."
As well they should. Everyone who hates Canada should be worried.
11/22/2008 12:52:36 PM
Seen before, still stupid.
11/22/2008 1:10:16 PM
Where I live (in the nice suburbs no less and not some inner city hell hole ) the PCSOs are not even allowed out after dark
11/22/2008 1:30:52 PM
Yeah, yeah. We know. Life just fucking sucks for Christians, doesn't it?
11/22/2008 2:16:52 PM
And if Muslims came into your area to preach (although they don't do that type of thing) you would let them? Right. This submission screams "Please, oh please somebody persecute me."
11/22/2008 3:08:45 PM
Please, please, please can we restore the colosseum in Rome and murder and torture these poor christians. They seem to want it so much that I am starting to feel guilty I am not persecuting them. But they would have to promise to be kind to the lions and tigers as they were eating them. I am an animal lover and I think they have rights too - just like homosexuals.
11/22/2008 4:51:03 PM
Ye Gods! My right to opress other people is being opressed! Come see the violence inherent in the system!
11/22/2008 5:35:02 PM
11/23/2008 12:57:12 AM
What?! NO! Wait! We can't preach here... this is muslim country. *drives off*
11/23/2008 2:39:44 AM
BAAAAW CHRISTIANITY IS FEELING OPPRESSED!
Join the club?
11/24/2008 7:29:48 AM
Unintentionally proclaiming your double standards?
12/31/2008 12:32:45 AM
Childojesus goes to a Muslim congregation
Childojesus: "Repent, sinners! Your false god is of the devil! You are on the road to hell! Jesus is the light! There is one true God! *continuing for ten minutes*"
Muslim: "Hey, can you shut up, please?"
Childojesus: "Help! I'm being persecuted! My religious rights are being denied!"
1/12/2010 9:07:26 PM
So I'm sure you would have no problem with a Muslim preaching to you then? You have a hell of a persecution complex.
1/12/2010 9:35:30 PM
Wow! I just discovered this after all this time. It's interesting to note that the insults and rebukes all came from a post I made on WWCO so long ago. In any case, I admit that there are far more serious examples of real persecution in nations such as China where 100 million Christians are essentially being monitored, harrassed, tortured and arrested - even jailed by their goverment for the crime of accepting Jesus Christ as the personal Lord and Savior. Still, my point being that in the Western world, it's not so much that Christians are persecuted, but rather that hatred and opposition to my Almighty God and Savior Jesus Christ is growing at a rapid pace. Political correctness and the secular modern world are the enemy of Christians and of God Himself. The world systemitself is emnity against God. The media, for the most part in Canada, politics and the public in general have no use for Jesus Himself and often speak out against Him in a variety of ways. It's more a general growing tide...a groundswell of dislike and hatred towards God and His Word that I speak of. Still, everyone has freewill and no one can be forced to believe in Jesus or accept Him as Lord and Savior. God loves people too much to force His will upon anyone. I wish you all well, despite the negativity my post generated, may you all find it in you one day to consider the very real Grace and Love of Jesus Christ in your own lives. God bless you all.
8/9/2010 12:05:55 AM
Yes, because if Genocide 101 is declared hate speech, we will all become rabid animals or something... did you have a point?
8/9/2010 8:38:22 AM
By the way...
Of course we have no use for god, just as how we have no use for Hitler or Skinheads. And yes, the Bible is even more evil than Mein Kampf, just read Deuteronomy 25, verses 11 to 12.
8/9/2010 8:46:28 AM
Please don't accuse everyone else of being an enemy of God, when he's the one who's become our enemy by being a mass murderer, and commanding humans to do the same. If Christians want to worship Jesus, then no one cares. However, when Christian Fundamentalists want to destroy science, education, free will, and human rights, they have become dangerous.
I can tell you from personal experience that Christians spend waaaay more time persecuting others(in history and up to the present day), than they have ever spent being persecuted themselves.
When intellectuals(heretics) and the media(devil-worshipers) call you out on your B.S.(inbreeding started the human race, kill unbelievers, etc.), that isn't "persecution", that is simply stating the facts.
If you don't like it, then don't watch the news.
Furthermore, murdering tens of millions of people over a 1,600 year period for not agreeing with your views is "persecution", so please get over your self.
If the day ever comes when the government starts burning churches and exterminating Christians, THEN, and only then, are you getting "persecuted".
And yes, if that day comes, I will stand up for human rights, even though most Fundamentalists wouldn't do the same for me.
Peace be with you.
8/9/2010 11:06:27 AM