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Let's prove atheism!!?

Atheists claim that the universe come out from nothing, and then started evolving( change from nothing?)
So I thought we should do a little experiment to prove this falsehood:
Take a sealed glass tube. Using a vacuum pump, expel all the air. Spin it round in controlled environment of standard pressure and temperature. Stop spinning. What happened? Nothing!
Inference? Nothing can never come out of nothing.
Generalisation? atheism is unscientific.
Recommendation? There is God, read the Bible and pray. He will reveal Himself to you.

deonamihouse, Yahoo! Answers R&S 62 Comments [11/20/2008 9:59:48 PM]
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Lucilius

So put Jehovah in a jar, and I'll believe in him. Until YOU can show some evidence of your Sky Daddy, one religious fantasy is exactly as good as any other.

11/20/2008 10:05:49 PM

john

Nothing can never come out of nothing.

So where did God come from?

Besides, even if the universe was created by some higher power, that doesn't prove there was only one god, that god still exists or that god had any other powers. Nor does it disprove that humans and chimps evolved from a common ancestor.

It's a useless argument. That's why it's only used by amateurs. Real theologians haven't used it for centuries.

11/20/2008 10:08:55 PM

Efrain

Yeah but few of us can live for the millions of years to get something, and the whole no matter is created or destroyed, and the fact that VACUUMS DON'T WORK THAT WAY!

11/20/2008 10:11:32 PM

Mister Spak

Let's prove fundieism!!?

Fundies claim that god come out from nothing, and then started creating( change from nothing?)
So I thought we should do a little experiment to prove this falsehood:
Take a sealed glass tube. Using a vacuum pump, expel all the air. Spin it round in controlled environment of standard pressure and temperature. Stop spinning. What happened? Nothing!
Inference? Nothing can never come out of nothing.
Generalisation? fundieism is unscientific.
Recommendation? There is reality, use the scientific method to do experiments. You will learn things you never suspected.

Fixed.

11/20/2008 10:28:04 PM

Bored One-time Poster

I'll skip the first six lines since you clearly don't have a clue what any of those things are.

"Recommendation? There is God, read the Bible and pray. He will reveal Himself to you."
Recommendation rejected. Even assuming your pathetic attempt at a refutation of...whatever that was is true, why the Bible?

"Atheism is unscientific, therefore the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists and you should convert to Pastafarianism" would make just as much sense.

11/20/2008 10:28:32 PM

Seabhag

Well, I read the Bible, I didn't hear from 'god'. But I *have* heard from Thor, and Odin. They are pissed that you aren't worshiping them and aren't helping to add to the ranks of the einherjar.

11/20/2008 10:29:05 PM

Travelling Hobo

If he was really that clever he would realise that the glass tube still isn't empty.

11/20/2008 10:29:07 PM

a mind far far away

Holy shit, all I read was the first line, and I about shit bricks. Why in the hell do fundies insist that biology and astronomy are one inseparable thing? And god only reveals himself to people after the fifth toke, or the second rock, depending on your drug of choice.

11/20/2008 10:36:24 PM



Fundie Science 101:
Todays lesson- Experiments

According to commie darwinist 'science', an experiment designed to prove something wrong should duplicate the process in its entirety to the same specifications as the person proposing it. But you know that Jesus can forgive you for not understanding that fancy science talk and just picking afew random phrases out instead.
For example since you cant understand evolution beyond "Species change into other species, in a *fancy science talk* taking *fancy science talk* of years" your experiment should demonstrate that because a giraffe cant change into a walrus evolution is false, or as Dr. deonamihouse demonstrated you can prove the big bang theory wrong by first looking at it: "The universe started as an infinitely small and dense ball of matter *infinitely? what does that mean? lets just round it down to nothing* that exploded outward and *fancy science talk for the rest, but the conservapedia page has a link to evolution at the bottom so the theories must be linked*" Now we simply take 'nothing', in this case a glass jar, do some scientificy things to it like controlling the pressure, vacuuming out the air and spinning it. Never forget the spin. Did did all of creation come forth from a space smaller then an atom? no? then the big bang theory is wrong.
A critical last step some forget is to remind the listener that their theory being wrong means the only other possible explanation is that this universe was created 6000 years ago by the one true god who sent his only son to die for our sins. I was just kidding, we NEVER forget that.

11/20/2008 10:37:53 PM

The L

Even if your experiment somehow proved that there is a god (which it doesn't), it still doesn't prove that he's your particular idea of god.

Deonamihouse, read Buckland's Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and pray. The Goddess will reveal Herself to you.

11/20/2008 10:46:16 PM

aaa

Show me your god.

11/20/2008 10:47:59 PM

doomie 22

Hmmmmm... interesting... you've just proven that an empty glass jar stays empty. Astounding though your discovery may be, it has nothing to do with the big bang.

11/20/2008 10:51:21 PM



Unless a God of the little glass jar pops into existance, we can also use this to disprove Christianity.

11/20/2008 10:51:23 PM

pete

Well. At least this one got it's fail in the first sentence. NO ONE claims "the universe came from nothing". The Big Bang theory states that all the mass and energy in the observed universe was contained in a singularity and before the rapid expansion of that singularity we can't make a reasonible guess because the "laws of physics" didn't work as they do now.

11/20/2008 11:00:01 PM

anti-nonsense

last I checked, you were the one that believed that the universe was created from nothing.

We don't believe that. All the energy in the universe today has always existed and will always exist in some form.

11/20/2008 11:02:31 PM

StridentLobster

You keep talking, deonamilhouse, but all I hear is DURRRHURRHURR.

11/20/2008 11:04:36 PM

Sisyphus

Well, you've almost got the scientific method down. Except for the whole willful ignorance thing.

11/20/2008 11:15:30 PM

Canadiest

Wtf?
I mean WTF!?

Proof is that life can't happen when you make it impossible?

Wtf?

11/20/2008 11:16:26 PM

Old Viking

You're the ones who say the universe was created from nothing. (Atheists don't make that claim.) But now you're saying creation ex nihilo is false?

11/20/2008 11:17:42 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

umm..how does that disprove the fact that people do not believe in your god. Obviously you dont understand..we dont NEED reasons to disbeleive your religion any more than you need reasons to disbeleive any other religion.

11/20/2008 11:26:30 PM

D Laurier

Start with a lie, Then quickly jump to an absurdity.

11/20/2008 11:34:54 PM

Papabear

I'm one of the staunchest atheists you could meet, but I have never claimed the universe came out of nothing. I simply claim that, as there are no gods, no god was involved in the existence of our universe.

If you would just prove that your God exists, I will happily become a zealous Christian.

11/20/2008 11:41:42 PM

Headache

Cosmology has nothing to do with atheists. One can be an atheist and disagree with current theories about universe formation.

Besides, I don't know a single scientist who says something came from nothing, so wrong on all accounts, as usual.

There was an enormous amount of energy in the singularity which btw was not a single point but the whole universe contained in a very small "space", and which, for some reasons yet not know and understood, started a rapid inflation. After some ~14 billion years, an utterly stupid lifeform based on carbon, answered a question nobody has asked. That lifeform was called deonamihouse and it died soon after and vanished forever into food for worms and other earth bound lifeforms while the universe continued it's existence for eons of time... Nobody remembered deonamihouse after a shot while...



11/20/2008 11:43:41 PM

anonymous

Take a sealed glass tube. Using a vacuum pump, expel all the air. Spin it round in controlled environment of standard pressure and temperature. Stop spinning. What happened? Nothing!
Conclusion:
God can never come out of nothing.

11/20/2008 11:44:03 PM

Quantum Mechanic

Ignorant shit.

11/20/2008 11:51:12 PM
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