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What everyone seems to be missing, which I think is due to propaganda, is that gays already have the same rights as straights. They just don't want those rights. No one in the United States can marry "who they want". They can marry someone of the opposite gender. Straights, as well as gays, have just as much right to marry as anyone else. It just has to be with someone of the opposite sex.

So the debate shouldn't be whether they have the same rights or not. Clearly they do. Its whether we, as a society, want people of the same sex to enter into marriage, gay or straight.

To say its an issue of rights is both irresponsible and alarmist, and makes your position factually incorrect.

And no, it isn't "separate but equal". There is no difference at all in how a gay person may exercise the institution of marriage than a straight person. And honestly, that's their issue. It is the exact same as a person who is straight. They want something that is different. They want something tailored made for them.

I'm against it, but I'm not going to lose sleep if it ends up passing. But I will be absolutely furious if the will of the people is thwarted by judicial tyranny under the guise of "rights". One of our biggest problems as a society is that the people are ignored, and men in black robes deciding our future reeks of an Oligarchy.

Silverline, WoW OT 41 Comments [11/22/2008 12:12:44 AM]
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Beeblebrox

To say its an issue of rights is both irresponsible and alarmist, and makes your position factually incorrect.

A number of states, Florida included, condone firing a person from their job for being lesbian or gay. I'd say that falls right smack dab in the middle of "rights".

11/22/2008 7:22:39 AM

Fishcakes

Again:

Let's say you're in a country which restricts religious freedoms. You want to be a Baptist and go to a Baptist church. TOUGH SHIT! You have the same rights as everybody else who subscribes to, say, Scientology--you can go to mosque.

What's that? You don't believe in Scientology? You don't agree with it? TOUGH SHIT! You still have the same rights as everyone else still! It's all YOUR damn fault if you choose something different.

11/22/2008 7:40:01 AM

apYrs

I seem to remember something about men in black robes installing a president against the will of the people.

And the fundies applauded

11/22/2008 10:27:16 AM

Wandering Discordian

This line of reasoning is semi-valid. What exactly are anyone's rights when it comes to marriage? He says everyone has the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. They do, but should they? Is that a valid right? Is it the government's role to define marriage at all, or is that sort of thing personal business that the government should stay out of?

As for the "everyone has the right to marry someone they love" argument that homosexual supporters tend to use... do you have that right? What defines love? What if I loved and wanted to marry someone who did not feel the same way about me? You could change it from "everyone" to "every couple." But they you've deprived me of right to marry someone I love, much like the current situation deprives homosexuals of it. How is that any different? And if you say it's different because of the lack of consent, then you're talking about the other person's rights, which themselves may or may not be valid. Ethically speaking, this is a very complex issue.

Incidentally, I don't think anyone has a right to marry anyone. Some people can't handle marriage and harm themselves and others after getting married. More importantly, the concept of marriage is so convoluted and bogged down by expectations, some of which are unreasonable, that few people really understand what marriage in our culture is until they're in it. I think that's a big factor in the divorce rate. I say if two people want to get married, they have to prove they understand what they're in for, and prove they can handle it.

11/22/2008 10:37:04 AM

Arcturus

You're absolutely right. Marries heterosexuals have rights that single people and homosexuals don't. They pay tax, married people (who share an income and therefore can afford a house) receive tax. It's really unfair. Abolish tax breaks for thye married and nobody will have an argument. I mean, how out of date is a law that gives preference based on marital status?

11/22/2008 11:46:34 AM

aaa

Sigh...

11/22/2008 1:06:59 PM

mike-mike

"And congratulations mike-mike! Welcome to the board!"

Thanks 1BurningStake

11/22/2008 2:28:53 PM

Bored One-time Poster

So by that logic, you would be perfectly happy if ONLY gay people could marry?

I mean, you wouldn't be able to marry who you want, but you could marry some guy instead! 'Equal' rights FTW!

11/22/2008 4:11:46 PM



Damen for the win.

11/22/2008 4:19:56 PM

FMG

I'm against it, but I'm not going to lose sleep if it ends up passing. But I will be absolutely furious if the will of the people is thwarted by judicial tyranny under the guise of "rights". One of our biggest problems as a society is that the people are ignored, and men in black robes deciding our future reeks of an Oligarchy.


11/22/2008 6:13:04 PM

blah

No, we don't have the same rights. You can marry who you love (as long as they can make the decision for themselves and no one in the marriage is being hurt). I can't.

11/22/2008 10:19:10 PM

Shadoboy

What everyone seems to be missing, which I think is due to propaganda, is that blacks already have the same rights as whites. They just don't want those rights. No one in the United States can marry "who they want". They can marry someone of the same color. Whites, as well as blacks, have just as much right to marry as anyone else. It just has to be with someone of the same color.

Fixed

11/23/2008 1:00:03 AM



Making no point whatsoever for Jesus?

12/31/2008 12:35:31 AM

PiGirl13

I bet Silverline's parents thought equal rights meant we all had the right to marry someone of the same race as ourselves.

2/16/2011 10:56:42 AM

brendand

You're right! we've been so blind!
the gays *and* you should have the right to marry members of the same sex.
Doesn't that make you feel all warm inside? Since you would now have a right you have no use for

3/16/2011 5:22:50 PM

Saringuy

straights have to right to marry who they love. gays don't. now DAIF D:<

4/10/2012 5:02:49 AM
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