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[Ray builds a straw atheist to ask him 7 questions which he then fails to answer. The 7th answer is a particularly delicious slice of failure pie.]

Questions/arguments from a skeptic

1. God is Light, yet He creates the sun, for what purpose?

He created the sun so that we could have life on this planet. Without the sun, there can be no life.

2. God is Light, and He creates Himself by saying let there be light.

God is light, but the sun is created light. Science tells us that it had a beginning. God was its first cause.

3. God creates the moon as a light, but we know it is not a light.

We are aware that it merely reflects the sun's light, but it is a light that shines at night, as the Bible says. Haven't you heard of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata?

4. Why create a light before the sun/stars/moon? Surely God can work in the dark just as easily.

Again, God is light. He doesn't need anything to show Him His creation. The darkness it like light to Him (see Psalm 139:11-12).

5. God creates the Earth before the Sun, what gravitational field is the Earth sitting in?

Every planetary body (including the Earth) is surrounded by its own gravitational field, which exerts an attractive force on all objects. God created gravity, and He holds all things together by His own power (see Colossians 1:17).

6. God creates things in three days with "evening and morning" yet in order to have an evening and morning it relies on the Earth to rotate and the light source to come from a point, but God is everywhere.

God created every law of nature, and He is not bound by His own creation. He has power over thunder, lightning, earthquakes, the sun, and the wind, and even over you...as you will eventually find out.

7. Why did God only create radiation of a certain wave-length?

You will have to ask Him that one yourself. However, please realize that He will not even hear (take notice of) your requests while you have sin or doubt in your life (see Psalm 66:18). So don’t expect an answer (see James 1:6-7).

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's blog 60 Comments [11/20/2008 1:43:38 PM]
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A Friend

Is it just me or is Cumfart getting more batshit insane?

11/20/2008 1:49:14 PM

OneFuckedPony

What a raving simpleton.

11/20/2008 1:51:22 PM

Lucretius

"3. God creates the moon as a light, but we know it is not a light.

We are aware that it merely reflects the sun's light, but it is a light that shines at night, as the Bible says. Haven't you heard of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata?

My favourite one
Beethoven ?
Since when he he become an astronomer and /or Biblical creationist ?

11/20/2008 1:52:33 PM

a mind far far away

Wait. Did he just say in point #2 that god created himself?

11/20/2008 1:53:05 PM

Ambrielle

Twat.

On second thought, that is an insult to twats everywhere.

11/20/2008 1:53:06 PM

Dan Onymous

You are a mental.

Who created all the other wavelengths of radiation then?

11/20/2008 1:53:17 PM

Paschal Wagner

Haven't you heard of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata?

...Yeah. Because that's how we found out the moon reflects light: Beethoven was the first human to notice this.

He doesn't need anything to show Him His creation.

So basically, you just agreed with your own strawman. Well done.

11/20/2008 1:54:39 PM

Mister Spak

Hey Ray, what day did god create banannas?

11/20/2008 1:57:46 PM

JohnTheAtheist

Do people really take this guy seriously? How dumb are human beings?

11/20/2008 2:10:04 PM

Route666

Mister Spak

Hey Ray, what day did god create bananas?

1. To fit perfectly in your hand to prove that I am an idiot
2. To use as kinky sex objects
3. For monkeys to eat

Oh you are serious

11/20/2008 2:28:01 PM

emau99

You're talking to yourself, Ray.

11/20/2008 2:36:05 PM

aaa

Parade of straw. It's very flammable.

11/20/2008 7:08:56 PM

anonymous

What is even going on here?!

11/20/2008 7:08:58 PM



Hey Ray, if you supposedly no longer use the oft-refuted banana argument, why are you still running ads for books that use that particular argument?

11/20/2008 7:12:43 PM

Panz

Ray, I think you've misunderstood what 'light' means in biblical context. Not that i expect fundies to know anything about their bibles anyways.

11/20/2008 7:13:39 PM

Thammuz

LOL WUT?

11/20/2008 7:17:01 PM



R.E. questions 1&2 - surely the most "sensible" answer is that God is refered to as light in a metaphorical sense.

Why is he making things worse for himself by using the stupid answers?

11/20/2008 7:21:30 PM

Captain Obvious

Why in the world would any of these questions be relevant to anything ever?

What's with all this "God is Light" shit, in order for them to have any argument "God" needs to be completely intangible. They always say "God" cannot be detected. Well light can be detected so "God" cannot be light.

11/20/2008 7:37:04 PM

NoAstronomer

So god won't even hear me if I have any doubt?! Then I'm screwed whatever I do.

Other than that it's the literary equivalent of masturbation.

11/20/2008 7:39:34 PM

Philbert McAdamia

The darkness it like light to Him

God must be a cat.


Every planetary body (including the Earth) is surrounded by its own gravitational field, which exerts an attractive force on all objects.

Adam to Eve; "Sayyyyy, that's an attractive, uh, 'force' ya got there, Baby."

Eve; "Teehee. Oh, is that what the kids are calling it these days?"

Adam; "Kids?"

Eve; "Uh . . . Honey . . . "

11/20/2008 7:40:41 PM

john

1. Why did God create the universe?

I don't know. He's magic - He can do anything.

2. How did we have a morning and evening before the sun was created?

I don't know. He's magic - He can do anything.

3. If God created the earth first and then the sun, why does the earth orbit the sun?

I don't know. He's magic - He can do anything.

4. Why did God create a caterpillar that eats plants, plants that poison caterpillars, wasps that eat caterpillars and caterpillars that absorb the plant poison and use it to kill wasps?

I don't know. He's magic - He can do anything.

5. Why did God give a dog defective color vision genes, as opposed to just leaving them out?

I don't know. He's magic - He can do anything.

11/20/2008 7:43:46 PM

Old Viking

Consummate idiocy.

11/20/2008 7:47:48 PM

The Loser

His banana argument is hilarious. Wild bananas are barely edible.

11/20/2008 7:49:10 PM

breakerslion

Somebody please lock him in a room with Gene Ray (www.timecube.com). No matter which Ray of Sunshine comes out alive, it's a win for the rest of us!

Here are my 7 stupid questions RC:

1. If God is light, how does he stay in one place long enough to communicate when he's traveling at 186,000 miles per second?

2. God is light, so he transmogrifies himself a flashlight or something, and some hands to grab it, then points it ahead of himself and turns it on. What happens?

3. God is light. So, that makes us light, being made in His image and all?

4. God is light. So, does he shut himself off when He's trying to sleep?

5. Why Broccoli?

6. If you know you're God, and you let people hang you, and you know you won't stay dead, What kind of sacrifice is that?

7. If God is all-knowing, why was He so pissed off about the apple and the talking snake thing? Didn't He see it coming?

11/20/2008 7:50:07 PM

Slayer

Ray can't even answer his own made-up questions about his religion. I mean, just look at his first answer:

"He created the sun so that we could have life on this planet. Without the sun, there can be no life."

If God is all-powerful, surely he can create a world where the Sun is not required for life to exist?

11/20/2008 7:55:26 PM
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