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Only Catholicism can save Western Civilisation now. Secularism is fatal - note the negative birthrates in all secularised countries. And believe me, there are many forces filling the population gap while the West aborts and contracepts itself to oblivion, through its adoption of the unatural Secular Humanism. Restoring Church-State relations is the only guarantee of the West's survival now.

amaqula, Youtube 34 Comments [11/22/2008 9:07:13 AM]
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Raskolnikov

If it is to have more idiots like you amaqula, I'd rather not see the West survive.

11/22/2008 9:23:38 AM

FreBoy

BREEEEEED for Jezus!

11/22/2008 9:38:11 AM



Modern Western civilization and church-state relations are fundamentally incompatible.

11/22/2008 9:40:45 AM

Frear

Poland and Italy are among the most catholic countries in Europe yet their birth rates are extremely low. "Liberal" countries like Sweden or Denmark enjoy much higher birth rates.

11/22/2008 9:44:04 AM

Paschal Wagner

"Negative birth rate"? As in less than 0 children being born? What does a -child look like?

...Just how many antichrists are there being born these days?

11/22/2008 10:21:46 AM

Mortok

Thankfully, that will never, ever happen.

11/22/2008 10:33:47 AM



"negative birthrates"

ROFL!

11/22/2008 10:40:54 AM

Nowonmai

Negative birth rates properly known as 'Zero Population Growth', in an extremely over populated world is a good thing.

It also proves that intelligent people don't breed indiscriminately like rats.

11/22/2008 10:54:42 AM

Thammuz

Italy, mostly catholic, negative birthrate. FAAAAIL

11/22/2008 10:59:32 AM



To be fair, negative birth rate is a valid term. It means that fewer than 2 children are being born to couple, i.e. 2 being the number of children needed to replace that couple in the population when they die.

Whether or not that's a bad thing is another issue.

I can see a situation where Europe's native population seriously shrinks - but that it's enhanced by immigrants. And even speaking as a white native European, I say: so what?

The world population is in no danger - the contrary in fact.

So, unless you're hung up on whiteness, it doesn't matter!

11/22/2008 11:09:57 AM

Route666

Ok lets all phuck ourselves into oblivion

11/22/2008 11:58:02 AM

Beeblebrox

Restoring Church-State relations is the only guarantee of the West's survival now.

I'd rather watch my country burn than see it become a slave to any religion. And trying to assert religious dominance over the government in this country is the fastest possible route to a civil war that would make 1864 look like a lace-panties tea party.

11/22/2008 12:20:19 PM

Mister Spak

Move to Saudi Arabia, you won't find a spec of secularism there. And no, you can't come back.

11/22/2008 12:37:43 PM

Grimesy

We need to stop breeding. If you haven't noticed, the Earth has too many people already.

11/22/2008 12:56:52 PM

aaa

I will make sure that won't happen.

11/22/2008 1:30:11 PM

solomongrundy

I was talking to a Catholic guy I've worked with and been friends with for over twenty-five years now about this, he has three lovely kids, the youngest is seventeen.

On the subject of family planning all he would say was 'you don't understand'. I suspect what they do is use contraception and then go to confession. A little Jesuitical, I thnk.

11/22/2008 2:01:52 PM



Negative birth rates? People are giving birth to less than zero babies? How does that work?

(I know what he means,I just enjoy being pedantic.)

11/22/2008 2:09:56 PM

Bored One-time Poster

A reduction in birth rates is actually a good measure of a country's development.

...but you wouldn't know that. You're an imbecile.

11/22/2008 4:04:24 PM

a mind far far away

Survival doesn't work that way. Neither does civilization.

Edit: If fundy christianity was to take over the governments, we'd all be dead in about five years. They're convinced global warming isn't happening, when it's clear that it is. They're convinced there's not an over-population problem, when it's clear that there is. Scientific discovery would cease, meaning no more cures for diseases, better medical technology, better technology all around. Humanity would cease to move forward, instead, it would move backward, specifically toward the dark ages. Learning would cease. Science and philosophy would become extinct. Basic human freedoms would be taken away. You want to know what the west run by christianity would look like? Look at Saudi Arabia, or Iran, or any fundamentalist Islamic state. It's chaos. It's horrible, and no human should be subject to that kind of degradation.

11/22/2008 4:22:03 PM

Princess Rot

Sorry, I didn't hear the point over the hysterical screams of: "Baaaaaawwwww! Teh icky brown people are having moar baybees than us! Every woman and girl should get pregnant immediately or we're doomed, dooooooomed I tell ya!"

11/22/2008 4:36:22 PM

Xotan

Er, Galileo disagrees,

11/22/2008 4:43:29 PM



Italy would like a word with you

11/22/2008 5:32:18 PM

Darwin

Secular humanism has nothing to do with it. Educating and empowering women is probably the single biggest factor, once they realise that they are more than just baby factories they free themselves to have a much more active life.

11/22/2008 5:35:13 PM

Dark_Lord_Prime

Wouldn't "negative birthrate" mean that people are being unborn?

That, in itself, would be a bit alarming...

11/22/2008 5:41:19 PM

Doctor Whom

Those countries where they're having lots of babies (i) aren't all predominantly Catholic and (ii) aren't doing themselves or the world much of a favor.

11/22/2008 5:56:48 PM
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