Hello all - For another view on why there will be no PRE - Tribulation rapture, visit the web site www.wake-up.com . The ICE age was created because of a asteroid ( or two ) hitting the earth when Dino's lived here. More are forthcoming, just a matter of time. Meteor showers 1st, then a asteroid on land, then one in the sea, then Darkness. What will the people of the earth do? Create a one world government to appease God! They will agree God is angry and will make sin-less laws ( like we all ready don't have a billion of them ) This government is called Babylon in God's Word, because of the confusion of so many different religions claiming to know what God wants as worship. People will join this "false" gov. to receive food and medical, to survive, instead of living by FAITH in God. Anyway-- check out the web site, there's also a FREE book if you want it. May you all seek for the truth in God's Word! ~ Gail