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KatG,

The will of the people limited the rights of a man to marry his adult daughter; mother to mary her adult son; and an adult brother to marry his adult sister. You see, marriage has always had restrictions on it that were and always have been CONSTITUTIONAL. This whole gay marriage thing as some special right does not fly.

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Some restrictions make sense. Others don't. There used to be laws forbidding blacks from marrying whites. There even used to be laws forbidding blacks slaves from marrying other slaves. Were those fair restrictions? No. Those marriages didn't hurt anybody. They were between two consenting adults who just happened to be of different races/slaves.

Here we have gay marriage. Again, it is between two consenting adults who happen to be of the same gender this time. Homosexual sex does not naturally produce children, so there is no danger of birth defects as there is with incest. A child cannot consent. An animal cannot consent. But a grown man and a grown woman can.

Besides, in the Bible, God didn't seem to mind incest that much. Adam and Eve married. Cain must have married one of his future sisters, given that there was no mention of other families. Lot slept with his daughters. And homosexuality =/= incest. So, you fail miserably.

old comment by Sasha

@chinger, it's only very recently that people have been aware of genetic diseases, and very, very recently that we have had the science to check for them. Many genetic problems are recessive, which means that marrying a relative who could also carry those recessive genes greatly increases the risk of passing both recessives on to the offspring, resulting in the full-blown disease. Marrying a stranger with a completely different set of genes reduces this risk substantially.

You can't choose which genes to pass on to your child; you can play the odds, but it's still out of your control. We all carry some defective genes in our DNA, so we're never going to find that perfect human being to marry to ensure our offspring are completely healthy.

And unless you have really mean it, you should find some better excuse.
Excuse? What excuse do we need to allow two consenting adults to marry? What you need is an excuse to prevent it. I haven't seen a good one yet.

old comment by xplicit_UK

I probably should start out by saying that I've got a proper, serious "ick" reaction to this as well, but...

In fairness, I, too, see where they are coming from. The argument for any relationship is that it needs two consenting adults, and in my view incest laws need to be subjected to closer scrutiny in this regard.

The problems with incest in my view are two-fold: a) as has already been mentioned, there is an increased likelihood of birth defects - however, looking at the actual science, it's not that much increased, plus not all incestuous couples would choose to have children.

b) and this seems to me a bigger problem, is that in any parent-offspring relationship, even with an adult son/daughter, there is always a chance that the powers are unevenly distributed. If a father were to marry his daughter there may be a possibility of coercion on the father's part. But again, it's difficult to make this a blanket reason not to allow such marriages, as this could hold true for any other relationship as well.

It is a tough one, that. So I don't think it deserves as much ridicule as it gets.

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