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Spanking with a belt is NOT abuse. Spanking with something like that (a rod) by a loving parent is biblical.
[11/20/2008 9:58:35 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
So dick slapping is acceptable? What if you're the same sex?
11/20/2008 10:00:38 PM
According to your Babble, stoning's right and proper too. Hold still.
11/20/2008 10:11:37 PM
Riiiiight... The law says otherwise.
11/20/2008 10:12:51 PM
well, fuck you too bitch. Tell me that to my face. I went to bed WAY too many nights with welts from my father's belt. Physical 'discipline', the way my parents and other fundie parents I know used it, IS abuse. There is no excuse for it. It is a 'simple' solution for parents who don't want to spend the time to figure out how to deal with their kids. In my case rational discourse would have worked better from the age of 5 on then blistering my ass ever did.
11/20/2008 10:22:02 PM
How about an axe handle?
11/20/2008 10:29:30 PM
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Either you have a REALLY stiff belt, or you're talking a lot of crap.
11/20/2008 10:30:59 PM
a mind far far away
So, when you do something wrong, can we bash you in your head with an iron rod? Pretty please? Oh, and don't have any kids, it's not nice to take children away from their parents, it's pretty scarring.
11/20/2008 10:33:53 PM
Just one more reason to chuck the bible in the trash.
11/20/2008 10:34:05 PM
And they wonder why people go nuts when they leave.
11/20/2008 10:44:34 PM
My parents spanked me with a belt when I was a kid, and I turned out OK.
Frankly, it depends on how much metal is on the belt, how many times you hit them with it, and how hard you strike. If it leaves a mark that lasts for more than a few minutes, IT'S ABUSE. If it just stings and turns red for about a minute or so, it's not (although spanking really should be saved for a last resort after timeouts, privilege deprivation, and reasoning with the child have all failed).
And a rod is not a belt. I'm guessing HoneyBee's mother never told her the stories my mother told me--when my mother misbehaved my grandmother sent her out into the yard to "pick a switch," i.e. to pick out a light, whippy tree branch to be spanked with. THAT is the "rod" the Bible was probably referring to.
11/20/2008 10:50:57 PM
So if someone "corrects" you by wailing on you for a while, you wouldn't object?
11/20/2008 11:05:04 PM
Spanking with a belt is abuse. Spanking with something like that (a rod) by a hate-filled, fundy parent is satanic.
Corrections made, fuckwit. Go shove a rod up your ass, raptureretard honeybee.
11/20/2008 11:11:28 PM
And if the children persist in being snotty the Bible says to stone them to death.
11/20/2008 11:28:39 PM
That depends from state to state, I live in a spanking right state and my children get it when they are bad.. one of the problems in this country is that the parents let the kids run all over them. MANY times I have seen kids talk TRASH to their parents because they know the parents arent going to do anything to them for it. My kids would NEVER think about doing that to me.
11/20/2008 11:29:39 PM
No one at RR is up for any parenting awards, I'm quite sure, so forgive me if I don't take your advice.
11/20/2008 11:40:24 PM
So, it's OK because it's in the Bible, like say, slavery, genocide and murder.
11/20/2008 11:43:09 PM
Barbaric. There, that's the word you're looking for.
11/20/2008 11:43:12 PM
Smashing your child's head into a rock is also Biblical?
11/20/2008 11:45:05 PM
I hope your kid kills you.
11/20/2008 11:50:16 PM
im pro spanking
i think it can be an effective way to deal with a troubled child who wont respond to other forms of punishment.
so long as its always used as a last resort.
but spanking with a belt is abuse
11/20/2008 11:55:12 PM
Well, if the bible says it's okay, it has to be fine.
Now hold still, I'm aiming a brick.
11/20/2008 11:56:45 PM
Allow me to show how much I love you with a bucket of stones.
11/20/2008 11:59:55 PM
"I love my child, so I must bring them bodily harm if they disobey me, until either my arm gets tired or the problem goes away. OF COURSE!"
11/21/2008 12:07:48 AM
abuse is fairly subjective, and has as much to do with the results as the action. let us say instead that it is violent, unnecessary, cruel, and wrong. that should cover it.
11/21/2008 12:17:30 AM
So, beating your child with a belt is a much better solution then actually spending time with them. Well I suppose it makes sense if your in a marriage where the husband does all the decision making and the wife is too scared to get a divorce because she doesn't want to go to hell.
11/21/2008 12:25:24 AM