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PATNA, India - A teenage Indian boy was thrashed, paraded through the streets with his head shaved and then thrown under a train for daring to write a love letter to a girl from a different caste, police said Thursday.

Manish Kumar, 15, was kidnapped by members of the rival caste on his way to school and was killed as his mother begged for mercy, police in the impoverished eastern state of Bihar said.

One man has been arrested and a policeman suspended.

The victim's mother, Lalit Devi, told police she had watched "helplessly" as the wheels of the train passed over her son.

"The accused persons killed the boy for writing a love letter to the girl of the same village," superintendent of police in Kaimur district, Rajesh Kumar, told Reuters by telephone.

Police said the girl belonged to a washerman community, considered a lower caste, whereas the boy came from the slightly higher dairymen Yadav community.

Love across caste lines is often violently opposed, especially in rural northern India, and it is not uncommon for outraged families to kill to "save the family honor."

Patina Hindus, MSNBC 60 Comments [11/21/2008 10:10:54 PM]
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Porky Pine

So, what's wrong with religion?

11/22/2008 2:31:57 PM


And yet they worship Mahatma Gandhi like a God. And one of his intentions was to scrap the caste system, and eliminate practices like the above atrocity.

If he were alive today, he'd show his disapproval by going on hunger strike. That's how he persuaded people to obey his policies.

India, despite it's overwhelming Hindu population (along with Muslims & Sikhs) has a very SECULAR government. It's about time it instituted (& enforced) a 'Separation of Church Family' law: religious beliefs stay at the temple. 'Traditions' have NO right to exist in the home.

11/22/2008 3:05:46 PM


Well, at least they didn't kill the girl as well for darig to recieve said letter.

11/22/2008 4:19:27 PM

Won Ton

Throwing a kid under a train is honourable now. I can't even begin to understand this.

11/22/2008 5:01:19 PM


The problem is in India there is a federal government. The states themselves vary wildly...

For instance. Kerala has a higher literacy rate than the USA (99% - Every man, woman and child was forcibly educated. Freedom be damned, all of them can read, write and do basic mathematics. It also weighs in with nearly a falling population (1.8 children per family) and the best medical care in India.

On the other hand you have Bihar and Rajasthan which have large populations of poor people who often violently oppose education.

The Caste system breaks religious boundaries. Christians and muslims both have their own caste systems. It's "tradition" rather than religion. The Bhagvad Gita actually speaks out against the caste system. The argument is that two of the combatants are not Kshatriya yet are better human beings not because they are breaking their caste boundaries but because they live their lives according to the rules that they have imposed on their life. Karna's story is so "tragic" since he is jilted by the woman he loves who marries his rival for the sole reason that he is NOT a warrior caste member.

The thing to remember is that you get backward thinking in rural areas. For instance there are parts of India where I cannot drink water from a cup with my lips touching the cup. Because of my caste (or lack there off since I am half caste). There are other places where those same people would want me to marry their daughter and pay vast sums of money to dowry her off to me. Because of the society they live in. The north is charged with the petty nature of the caste system.

11/22/2008 6:07:28 PM


Actually alot of right-wing Hindus, probably including the ones behind this, despise Gandhi as a sell-out and a traitor. They blame him for the partitioning of India, the secular government and concessions towards Muslims.

Some of them even venerate his (Hindu) assassin.

11/22/2008 6:47:09 PM


Religious fundamentalists telling people whom they can and can't marry? I'm glad I live in the United States where that kind of thing can't happen!

11/22/2008 7:04:59 PM


Can't say anithing about this, as it is basicaly another world... It's up tu hindues to decide how they react in front of this behavior

Bullshit. Post-modernist wavering can only go so far when comparing cultures. When cultural groups commit violence over made-up offenses, it is the responsibility of everyone who cares about humanity to lift their voice in opposition.

11/24/2008 9:10:52 PM

Schizo angel versus filth

Bigots = Sick filth!

11/24/2008 9:51:36 PM

Well, let's do the same with them when they try to hook with western girls and we'll say "double standards forever"

12/31/2008 12:40:17 AM

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