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Non-believers, why is it............................…


.....that you claim one of the things that helps prove there is no God is that the different religions in the world are mostly contained in seperate geographical regions?

So what?

This dates back about 4,000 years ago when God decided to reveal the truth to one group of people in the world because everyone else on the planet was sinful and wasn't ready for the truth.

The truth was exposed in the first five books in the Bible.

Now, imagine if you spill something on a map of the world. It's going to spread slowly and not cover EVERYTHING instantly. It's going to take time.

Christianity is still spreading. That's why it's not everywhere yet. It takes TIME.

And don't bring up how my parents happened to be Christian as a reason why I am Christian. That is a coincidence.

Guess what, do you believe in evolution?

Do your parents believe in evolution too?

Does that automatically mean evolution is false?

Bill R, Y!A 47 Comments [11/25/2008 11:24:58 PM]
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Funnyguts

Didn't the Hebrews keep sinning all the time?

11/25/2008 11:27:37 PM

Jay-Sus

I believe in evolution while my mom does not. By your logic evolution is true.

11/25/2008 11:28:44 PM

Doctor Whom

This dates back about 4,000 years ago when God decided to reveal the truth to one group of people in the world because everyone else on the planet was sinful and wasn't ready for the truth.

It turned out over and over that God's chosen people weren't ready either.

Christianity is still spreading. That's why it's not everywhere yet. It takes TIME.

So much for Divine omnipotence. God could create everything in six days but can't spread Christianity at more than a glacial rate?

Do your parents believe in evolution too?

My dad was a creationist. Still care to go down that route?

11/25/2008 11:29:33 PM

Ken R.

The problem with this argument is that God willingly damned a large group of people simply through ignorance for a long, long time. If indeed people go to Heaven through belief rather than deeds, then someone living in what is now the United States in 1000 AD would be damned to Hell simply because they could not have possibly known about Jesus Christ.

Can't you understand why that's messed up?

11/25/2008 11:32:53 PM

Illuminatalie

And don't bring up how my parents happened to be Christian as a reason why I am Christian. That is a coincidence.
Now THAT is funny!

Guess what, do you believe in evolution?
I believe that the facts support the theory of evolution. This is a corollary to the fact that I do NOT believe in a conspiracy of science at the behest of devil-worshiping governments.

11/25/2008 11:37:09 PM

FreshClaire

STRAWMAN DETECTED

11/25/2008 11:40:17 PM

Eden

This dates back about 4,000 years ago when God decided to reveal the truth to one group of people in the world because everyone else on the planet was sinful and wasn't ready for the truth.

The truth was exposed in the first five books in the Bible.


We´re talking about a divine almighty entity, which made humans and always was present rom the beginning on (where there were just 2 humans in the world).
He would have had all chances to see any negative development into sinfulness and would have all measures in his hand from correcting it before it spreads.
After all god had no scruples to kill a few thouand people just because they disagreed with Moses, so killing a few thousand people because they would spread sin would be something that I would expoect from the god of the bible ;)

Oh and btw. why don´t we ever hear about american indians and/or chinese in the bible? Even if they fell from grace due to sinfulness, we would usually expect them to be at least mentioned in the bible, even if it is just the story about their fall from grace ;)

But for some strange reasons the bible only contains stories about cultures, with which the authors from the bible (due to their geographical vicinity) had direct contact ;)

11/25/2008 11:41:13 PM

Qreg

Whoosh!

11/25/2008 11:42:35 PM



The fastest growing religion is Islam. Does that mean Islam is right?

Among Christians in the US, the number of Roman Catholics has increased while the number of Baptists has decreased by almost an equal number. Does that indicate that the RCC is right and fundamentalist Baptists are FOS?

11/25/2008 11:44:54 PM

a mind far far away

Actually, most religions, sans the animistic and folk religions, grew up in the same two areas of the world, the Middle East, and the Indian sub-continent. Look at the Middle East, we have:
1. Judaism (Palestine)
2. Christianity (Palestine)
3. Islam (Arabian Peninsula)
4. Baha'i (Palestine-Persia)
5. Zoroastrianism (Persia)

Now India:

1. Hinudism (India)
2. Buddhism (India-Nepal)
3. Taoism (China)
4. Confucianism (China)

Seikism, if I'm not mistaken, was born in India as well. All the rest of the world's religions were basically cultural, based on animism and shamanism, like the Native American religions, Shinto, the various African religions, etc. So your argument fails.

11/25/2008 11:46:24 PM

Amanda

I don't know what you mean about Christianity not being everywhere. I've never used that as proof of anything. Yes, I believe in evolution. Yes, my parents believe in evolution. However, I would believe in evolution if my parents didn't, so I guess I know what you're saying there.

11/25/2008 11:46:38 PM

Knotilus

*weary sigh*

Rational people don't believe or disbelieve based solely on the beliefs of their ancestors/parents. They reason based on the evidence available to them.

11/25/2008 11:47:05 PM

tracer

"And don't bring up how my parents happened to be Christian as a reason why I am Christian. That is a coincidence."


I smell a Poe....

11/25/2008 11:53:52 PM

Papabear

"This dates back about 4,000 years ago when God decided to reveal the truth to one group of people in the world because everyone else on the planet was sinful and wasn't ready for the truth."

So for generation upon generation your perfect, omni-benevolent God has kept persons in much of the world from hearing the "truth" which could save their everlasting souls because their ancestors thousands of years ago were prehaps more sinful than the admittedly sinful chosen people? What a stupid and mean God you think you have.


"Now, imagine if you spill something on a map of the world. It's going to spread slowly and not cover EVERYTHING instantly. It's going to take time."

If one is an omnipotent, omniscient, omni-benevolent, perfect deity there is no excuse for the spreading of vital information to take time.


"And don't bring up how my parents happened to be Christian as a reason why I am Christian. That is a coincidence."

Bullpucky, and I'm suspect you know it's bullpucky.


"Guess what, do you believe in evolution?

Do your parents believe in evolution too?

Does that automatically mean evolution is false?"

The question wasn't whether Christianity was true or false, it was whether your being raised in a prodominantly Christian society raised the odds that you would become a Christian.

The fact that I was exposed to the ToE allowed me to include it in my choices of what to accept as true. That my parents largely accepted the ToE allowed me that exposure, but I was also exposed to Christianity, went to church, went to Sunday school.

11/25/2008 11:58:04 PM

Jack Bauer

My parents were not 'evolutionists'.

Baby Jesus is not happy that you keep pulling this stuff out of your backside.

11/25/2008 11:58:52 PM

doomie 22

"Do your parents believe in evolution too?"

Yes, but my parents didn't teach me evolution by telling me that if I didn't believe in it unquestioningly I'd burn forever.

11/26/2008 12:11:15 AM

Old Viking

Christianity is still spreading.

So it's like a plague, then?

11/26/2008 12:35:25 AM

Kris

"Do your parents believe in evolution too?"

No, they're hardcore Creationists. LOL WHER IZ UR LAWGIC NAO???

11/26/2008 12:35:51 AM

werewolf

My parents are seriously Roman Catholic, however I have no idea whether they understand and accept the TOE. The subject has never come up.


11/26/2008 12:41:58 AM

myheadhurts

apples and oranges

Although education can be limited or more prevalent based on culture, it is not a belief system. Religion, on the other hand, is passed down by culture and is entirely a belief system. It is much easier to draw borders around religious regions than it is to draw borders around people who accept evolution. Even IF my acceptance of evolution came from my parent's acceptance, I can verify the information and find that there are no competing theories. The same cannot be said for Christianity.

11/26/2008 12:46:55 AM

Zabimaru

This guy obviously doesn't understand the argument he is bashing.

If you aren't raised by Christian parents, or at least in a predominantly Christian community, it is highly unlikely that you just start believing in the bible. If you aren't taught as young that the bible is true you won't think that it is any different from any of the other holy books. One of them doesn't hold more water than the other.

Evolution on the other hand is a well established scientific theory. It is not a religion and it says nothing about religion. It is just science, and science is something you can examine and verify for yourself. Therefore it is highly likely that people who actually study evolution when they are old enough to understand it will "believe" in it.

The same is not true about the bible. The bible just seems more and more suspect the older you get. You don't start believing that Jesus is the son of God through rational inquiry, you believe it because someone in authority over you told you that it's so. And the same is true of people believing in the other religions.

11/26/2008 12:58:05 AM

John

This dates back about 4,000 years ago when God decided to reveal the truth to one group of people in the world because everyone else on the planet was sinful and wasn't ready for the truth.

You mean the Vedas, right?

11/26/2008 1:07:45 AM

Mat

*sniff* *sniff* Is that a burning straw-man that I smell right now?

11/26/2008 1:18:34 AM

Allegory for Jesus

"why is it............................…
.....that you claim one of the things that helps prove there is no God is that the different religions in the world are mostly contained in seperate geographical regions?"


Well, aside from this being an exaggeration, I'll let you clear this one up for yourself.


"This dates back about 4,000 years ago when God decided to reveal the truth to one group of people in the world"

That is why. That is one of the most retarded things an omnipotent, omnibenevolent one-true god could do.

11/26/2008 1:20:08 AM



@Funnyguts

Hebrew is a language


11/26/2008 1:25:02 AM
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