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"If you don't believe in God, you don't respect God, therefore, you're insulting him."
That is a whole lot of fail, all in one sentence. Congrats.
"That's like saying your real mother is not your real mother.. you're insulting your mother."
The difference being, my mother actually exists.
11/29/2008 12:58:39 AM
Seigi no Mikata
you were not created by God just to be a good person but to love him just like he loves you. If you don't believe in God, you don't respect God, therefore, you're insulting him
A supposedly omnipotent, perfect being sure needs an ego boost from his lowly creations...
11/29/2008 1:00:00 AM
I don't see what your problem is. I insult my mother all the time. To her face, even.
11/29/2008 1:04:11 AM
So, if I love your God like he loves me, I should punish him with eternal torture for not believing in me, right?
11/29/2008 1:10:13 AM
a mind far far away
There are words...in English, and in the right order, but they still make no sense. Now, I'll tell you straight, I don't insult your god in secret or with subtlety. I insult him outright and clearly. Your god is a fucking douche who acts like a child, is a bloodthirsty butt pirate, and is about as worthy of worship as the piles of shit my dog leaves in the back yard. I have no faith, there's no need for faith in the real world. Reality, truth, logic, reason, and intelligence. I don't need some sky fairy or a book his followers wrote to be a good person with morals. I don't need the threat of eternal punishment in order to be good. Fairy tales are for children, adults need to leave BS like that behind. And "sin" is something your religious ancestors invented to keep people in line in your death cult. It's not real. Do yourself a favor, if you're not going to join the real world, go jump off a cliff.
11/29/2008 1:14:08 AM
Love god as he loves me, eh?
Heh-heh-heh-haaaaa. Prepare to have your house flooded/burned/earthquaked, beeyotch!
11/29/2008 1:21:00 AM
Can't respect something I don't believe in. I don't respect Santa, the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy, either.
11/29/2008 1:27:20 AM
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
11/29/2008 1:27:38 AM
Trying desperately to achieve some sort of logical construct.
11/29/2008 1:35:53 AM
a mind far far away
@FOTM: Here's a stick. Now go shove it up your ass.
11/29/2008 1:51:31 AM
I can't realistically damage the ego of what doesn't exist. So... what was this again?
You do realize that most theistic arguments involve lose-lose scenarios like this all the time? It's like that for a reason, y'know. I could at least get a paternity test if I didn't think my mom was the real deal, but it doesn't seem like your gawd is too allowing for that, is he?
I hate these arguments. I really do. "You don't understand, and the only way you can prove you do is by blindly following along" doesn't quite constitute a very strong basis for conversion, even for some of the slower ones out there. This is basically empirical evidence for what I said before the edit!
11/29/2008 1:56:46 AM
Well, I can actually SEE my mother. Love is an emotion based on physical existence. I can't love what I can't see or talk to. And besides, even if I did say that mom isn't my real mom, I'm positive she wouldn't light me on fire as punishment. A "loving father" who burns his children for eternity isn't fit to worship.
11/29/2008 2:00:49 AM
I was adopted, so my real mother really isn't my real mother. My real mother is the woman who raised me, not the christian piece of shit that got her vagina stretched out at 14 by my other not-real parent.
So how about nice warm cup of shut-the-fuck-up?
11/29/2008 2:10:04 AM
"Without Faith or Belief, there's no God."
You are correct. You are absolutely, one hundred percent correct!
[I can't believe I completely missed that sentence the first time, and now I don't have an EDIT link on my first post]
11/29/2008 2:11:58 AM
Saying that your mother doesn't exist would be a better analogy. You also have evidence that your mother exists while there's none for your god.
11/29/2008 2:13:43 AM
If I were God, I'd love my people even if they didn't love me. If they didn't believe in me, I wouldn't blame them if I hadn't given them any proof because I created them to have complex minds that use logic and question their surroundings.
11/29/2008 2:27:26 AM
J. Random Lurker
@a mind far far away
Second that, although I think a stick is being a little generous. I'd offer the guy a dull, rusty knife...
11/29/2008 2:35:19 AM
a mind far far away
@J. Random Lurker:
You're right. I think he might like a stick up there. He's probably used to it.
11/29/2008 2:38:52 AM
Allegory for Jesus
"you were not created by God just to be a good person"
You guys couldn't make that any more clear, by word or deed, than you already have. And we don't give a damn about insulting someone we don't believe in. It's like us saying that you are pissing off the boogeyman for not being afraid of him. And it isn't the same as wondering if our real mother is our real mother because the mother exists no matter what, and we can actually confirm or deny it without ever taking a position on the matter.
11/29/2008 3:11:53 AM
Dark Lord Prime beat me to it
"Without faith or belief there is no God"
Sometimes they beat themselves at our own argument :-)
11/29/2008 3:17:06 AM
"Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?" - Jesus [Matt 12:48]
11/29/2008 3:28:52 AM
Without Faith or Belief, there's no God.
Well, duh. Imaginary beings are created by the imagination. What a breakthrough.
11/29/2008 3:35:32 AM
If you don't believe in God, you don't respect God, therefore, you're insulting him. That's like saying your real mother is not your real mother.. you're insulting your mother.
You're right...however, I don't think my mother would consign me to an eternity of hellfire for even the worst insult said to her face. You know, because she LOVES me, and all. The kind of love you suppose your god has for us is nothing but a hideous parody of what true love is.
11/29/2008 3:56:38 AM
"you were not created by God just to be a good person but to love him"
It boggles my mind how these people keep getting away with claiming they're the ones who hold our society's moral compass. And how they can't hear the moral bankruptcy in their own positions. Lunatics.
11/29/2008 4:15:53 AM
That's like saying your real mother is not your real mother.. you're insulting your mother.
I can prove that my mother is real. You cannot prove your god is real.
11/29/2008 4:35:08 AM
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