Quote# 53082

[In a thread entitled "Submission vs. Controlling"

In our culture, when someone calls someone else "controlling," there is no need to see their hearts and minds. They are rendering a judgment on someone else - and that judgment is negative. The term "controlling" has a wholly-negative connotation in our modern, feminized society.

I have simply made two points. 1) What feminists consider to be "wrong", no matter how culturally accepted, is not likely to actually be wrong upon inspection of the word of God. 2) Anyone who labels another person as "controlling" is judging them personally - NOT making a judgment that the word of God makes.

I can label you a "liar" or "adulterer" and not be "judging you." The Bible tells us both of those things are wrong in God's sight and we all know what they mean. I cannot call another person "controlling" without personally judging them because being "controlling" is not something that God has defined as a sin.

So I am not a judge, merely a reporter.

Contraeverything, Fighting Fundamental Forum 43 Comments [11/29/2008 9:38:02 PM]
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And you're an idiot. Reporter, not judge :P

11/29/2008 9:40:09 PM

a mind far far away

What a fucked up twisted way to say, "I'm a jackass, and my god is a jackass, and we are all moronic jackasses". You're a jackass. We get it. We got it long ago that you are all hypocritical, irrational, unintelligent jackasses.

11/29/2008 9:45:41 PM

Old Viking

Where does the Bible stand on "lamebrain"?

11/29/2008 9:55:49 PM


I can label you a "liar" or "adulterer" and not be "judging you." The Bible tells us both of those things are wrong in God's sight and we all know what they mean.

Explain, then, why we see so many different definitions of "adultery" from fundies the world over.

11/29/2008 9:59:13 PM


No, wait, wait... You're not a judge OR a reporter, you're a f*cking a**hat.

11/29/2008 10:00:50 PM



11/29/2008 10:01:21 PM


This is really creepy...

11/29/2008 10:02:48 PM


IOW: "Waaaah, I've spent all this time stalking her and telling her what to do and separating her from her friends, and she still left me!"

11/29/2008 10:05:12 PM


Who cares what your bronze age fantasy books says? It has nothing to do with the reality I live in.

11/29/2008 10:17:35 PM


And I still say you and your pathetic misogynistic gawd deserve nothing more than to be mocked.

11/29/2008 10:30:09 PM


Hypocrite, your second name is.

11/29/2008 10:36:09 PM


So I guess abortion is OK, too, since it's not something that God has defined as a sin, either

11/29/2008 11:17:30 PM

The Jamo

So in essence you admit that at no stage are you actually thinking for yourself and instead, you use a book to do the thinking and decision making for you.

Well done. Let me know how that works out for you.

11/29/2008 11:18:55 PM

Paschal Wagner

Sharia for Christ!

11/30/2008 12:03:19 AM

So you being a judgmental dick is ok and good, but me being a judgmental dick is wrong and bad. Gotcha.

11/30/2008 12:34:46 AM


*checks the thread*
Even this guy's fellow fundies think he's an ass. Way to go, bub.

11/30/2008 1:23:28 AM


Um, wasn't Jesus' big famous scene stopping people from stoning an adulterer with the words "He who is without sin cast the first stone"? I think that would be judging people according to your magic man-god.

11/30/2008 1:28:45 AM


*Yawn* Always thinking putting "God's word" on everything will make you right...

11/30/2008 2:01:14 AM


Interesting point.
What I'm wondering is, who gives a shit??

11/30/2008 3:12:18 AM

What the hell is this word salad? I can pick up a whiff of misogyny, but the whole 'controlling' argument makes zero sense.

11/30/2008 3:54:09 AM


I think the idea here is that God's own word, alleged to be infallible (although, I can't help but be aware of several cases of Talmudic nullification by a small swarm of establishors of guilt; the requirements for making sure that a disobedient son really is deserving of execution come to mind), has already performed judgement on deception and adultery. The sharp-line follower is more messenger than judge. Since no such condemnation of control is detected, though, then the speaker IS judge, not messenger.

I guess the best analogy is a king who sends a messenger to a far-off duchy to recite from memory a condemnation of the duke's deeds. Contraeverything fancies himself as the messenger, God as the king, and us as the (supposedly) corrupt duchy.

11/30/2008 4:00:00 AM


"I can label you a "liar" or "adulterer" and not be "judging you." The Bible tells us both of those things are wrong in God's sight and we all know what they mean."

In order to label anybody anything, you must first have judged them to be such.

And you also have to prove they are what you say they are, or you are bearing false witness, and the bible tells us that bearing false witness is a big no-no.

11/30/2008 4:02:43 AM


Dance, dance, dance around the issue, and come out clean

11/30/2008 4:24:32 AM


Sanctimonious tool. (Reporting)

11/30/2008 4:53:06 AM

Bring on MSTDT!!! F***ing misogynist tool. Go DIAF with da babble

11/30/2008 5:30:05 AM

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