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I won't go into a big boring thing here....but I was studying the String Theory:

The Superstring theory is based on 10 or 11 dimensions. The Bosonic string theory has 26 dimensions. Gravity is the only real force in the theory. It says only four of the ten dimensions can be observed by us, and that the others hint at the other forces that are observed. It does not say that other physics theories are not true, or wrong.

String theory has led to advances in the mathematics of folding, knots and Calabi-Yau spaces.
this is from http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory ( I only posted that so people would know what I was talking about).

This whole thing went round in round in my head. I prayed about it. The next week I was reading Hebrews 1:8. It is talking about Jesus' ability to 'fold up the universe like a garment'.

Here was this supposing 'out of date' Bible totally describing something considered a part of the latest in physic theories. It was an incredible moment and caused quite a stir of discussion in class.

I'm not going into real detail on why this is so important....but if we could ONLY begin to grasp the fact that God isn't subject to our 3D world and time, it would explain so many things that perlexes us and cause us to lose faith.

God doesn't just love us from the 'outside'....He is totally interwoven with us.

GloryB, Lampstand Christian Forum Community 68 Comments [11/29/2008 11:36:27 PM]
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Exmuslim Turk

This is the perfect example of shoehorning and an insult to physics.

11/29/2008 11:37:22 PM

Old Viking

OK, so I've put on a little weight around the middle.

11/29/2008 11:50:39 PM


So a complex unification of four natural forces, each one of which is its own separate and complex concept in the field of physics, can be summed up by one Bible verse?

Gee, I wonder why the ancient Israelites didn't write down any theoretical physics when they were obviously so advanced thanks to their God.

11/30/2008 12:02:02 AM


Baha - he's linking to the Simple English Wikipedia. For those that don't know, Simple English is meant for people learning English, for children, and for those with learning difficulties. The articles are simple both in language and in content.

I suppose the "full" English article was too much for him.

11/30/2008 12:05:42 AM


You don't understand string theory. The amount of people who actually understand string theory worldwide could all be in my living room and not be squeezed for space. But from what I understand, it's solely based in mathematics right now and is making little in the way of testable predictions, as the energies required are far from our reach to create.

11/30/2008 12:13:55 AM


Yeah, it's just another proof of rapture comment saying God will fold up the universe like a garment, throw it out and build a new world. Its a metaphor for the end of the world you retard. Anyway, proves god is a woman because real men don't fold their garments. Especially if we're going to chuck them.

11/30/2008 12:26:50 AM


I admit I don't understand String theory, but I'm pretty sure that's not it.

11/30/2008 12:27:50 AM


but I was studying the String Theory:

What has the word "study" ever done to you, that you should treat it so cruelly?

Why the fuck does a string theory article even exist on the simple-English site? Simple-English is barely adequate to explain high-school science, let alone the stuff of Nobel prize winning multi-phds. The best you could do is edit it to say: "Give up now. There's no fucking chance you could grasp even the preamble to this." (And, being the simple-English version, they might have trouble with "preamble")

All the signs are screaming "exquisitely well crafted Poe" at me, but there's just some small, horrified part of my mind that suspects it really could be genuine.

EDIT: Fuck me, not only is the science link in simple-English, but the bible link is KJV! You evidently find regular wikipedia too difficult, yet you don't anticipate comprehension problems reading Early Modern English???

11/30/2008 12:54:45 AM

Caboose 206

Not fundie, but a total idiot all the same.

11/30/2008 12:54:58 AM

Hebrews 1:8. Isn't what you claim it is.

11/30/2008 1:22:13 AM


Gag. What horseshit.

11/30/2008 1:29:44 AM


If God wanted to tell us about the string theory, you'd think He'd have put something about topological isomorphism, bijective functions, differentiable manifolds, etc. in the Bible. I mean, talking about "folding up the universe like a garment" is not exactly helpful. I'm sure none of the mathematicians who developed this stuff used the Bible as a source of inspiration. Likewise, I'm sure the bronze age Arab goat herders who wrote the Bible would have had any idea what the hell the string theorists were talking about.

11/30/2008 1:55:58 AM


Uhhh... what?

11/30/2008 1:56:56 AM


String theory is something I don't pretend to understand beyond the qualitative basics (I tried reading Green, Schwartz and Witten and was lost before I completed the first chapter) but I am 100% sure that the Bible didn't predict it. Incidentally, the verse that talks of the world folding like a garment ("vesture" in KJV) is Hebrews 1:12, not 1:8, and in context is referring to God and Jesus remaining constant as the world changes. (The discrepancy in the reference might be a clue that this isn't what it seems - fundies tend to cite the right verses even when their interpretations make no earthly sense.)

11/30/2008 2:10:13 AM

Holy fuck, so this is what happens when a fundie tries to understand physics...

...and linking to the simple English wiki? ROFL.

11/30/2008 3:49:45 AM

Reverend Jeremiah

What a bunch of bullshit..the universe isnt some soiled loincloth you dummy.

11/30/2008 4:21:27 AM

a mind far far away

I don't know, and I won't pretend to know, what string theory is. However, due to the fact that this is a christian posting on it, I can pretty much guarantee that this is not what it is.

11/30/2008 4:24:08 AM



The amount of people who have a working understanding of string theory are not that few. As in I would claim that at my uni at least there are 3 professors, several postdocs and I would even count one or two grad students in the pile. And that is only in the physics department. The math people are also very well into it.

Energy is the limiting factor for in lab (i.e. accelerators) experiments. There indeed we are very far from testable predictions. But we do have access to a natural lab via studying cosmology. There we do see the start of reasonable attempts being made by string theorists to provide testable predictions.

11/30/2008 4:32:14 AM


Yeah, and when the Bible mentioned sea monsters and dragons, it really meant dinosaurs... It is amazing how all of these scientific discoveries were in the Bible all along, but no one knew about them until humans thought them up.

11/30/2008 4:42:42 AM

Pedantic Twit

God damn, you're stupid.

11/30/2008 5:40:56 AM


yeah, the bible also has a verse in there predicting these exact words:

fuck you bible

11/30/2008 6:39:22 AM


Now try it without the God-Goggles and see what you come up with.

11/30/2008 6:45:23 AM


You know this could get good. Post this (and other theoretical physics) over at rapture ready and what their heads explode.

11/30/2008 7:37:51 AM


Actually, that just raises further questions.

11/30/2008 8:22:06 AM


Funny how the bible can get string theory right, but not pi or the amount of legs on a mosquito.

11/30/2008 8:46:41 AM

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