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I won't go into a big boring thing here....but I was studying the String Theory:

The Superstring theory is based on 10 or 11 dimensions. The Bosonic string theory has 26 dimensions. Gravity is the only real force in the theory. It says only four of the ten dimensions can be observed by us, and that the others hint at the other forces that are observed. It does not say that other physics theories are not true, or wrong.

String theory has led to advances in the mathematics of folding, knots and Calabi-Yau spaces.
this is from http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory ( I only posted that so people would know what I was talking about).

This whole thing went round in round in my head. I prayed about it. The next week I was reading Hebrews 1:8. It is talking about Jesus' ability to 'fold up the universe like a garment'.

Here was this supposing 'out of date' Bible totally describing something considered a part of the latest in physic theories. It was an incredible moment and caused quite a stir of discussion in class.

I'm not going into real detail on why this is so important....but if we could ONLY begin to grasp the fact that God isn't subject to our 3D world and time, it would explain so many things that perlexes us and cause us to lose faith.

God doesn't just love us from the 'outside'....He is totally interwoven with us.

GloryB, Lampstand Christian Forum Community 68 Comments [11/29/2008 11:36:27 PM]
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David B.

Please, please, guys, don't discourage him...

I totally want to see him fold a garment into a Calabi-Yau manifold!

11/30/2008 5:50:45 PM


Using Simple English Wikipedia is the last thing I'll fault this guy for. A lot of articles on specialized topics are pretty well incomprehensible if you don't have any experience in the field.

Simplified wording doesn't help there. You might as well try to learn fluid mechanics without first having learnt vector notation, or transmission line theory without complex notation. There is a reason why complicated science uses complicated language, and it is pretty much the same reason that modern computer software is not written in machine code.

I won't fault the guy for recognising that simple English may be the appropriate level for him; what I will fault him on is trying to use it at a level that it is utterly unsuited for. If you can't handle a motorcycle then, by all means, get a pushbike; but don't then try to join Hell's Angels!

11/30/2008 6:23:27 PM


Begin with a gross oversimplification and down right fabrication about an unproven theory. (Gravity's the only force? Really?) Check.

Use this totally irrelevant starting point to show that the Bahble is, like, totally a science book because it mentions words that are similar to words in said unproven theory. Check.

Bold and highlight said words as though all around you will be stunned into silence with the emphatic nature of your brilliance. Check.

If I were a betting man (which, as it happens, I am), I would place a wager that you don't actually know what you're talking about, GloryB.

11/30/2008 6:23:50 PM


Go to the Simple English Wikipedia page for sexual intercourse. I laughed my ass off.

11/30/2008 6:28:25 PM

mom the dragon

Okay, this individual does not make any sense - but he/she/it does have one point ... "God doesn't just love us from the 'outside'....He is totally interwoven with us."

If only he/she/it followed that statement and the rest of these fundies would realize the truth of that statement.

But, unfortunately, folks like this individual think they have a straight line to God, but in fact, they have a straight line up God's rear end.

(BTW - I am technically a Christian - but with strong Celtic and Buddist leanings.)

11/30/2008 8:27:13 PM


There is an old India fairy tale that says one of their gods has the entire universe down his throat. That doesn't mean this old fairy tale is discussing black holes.

As for it going around your head... with enough self delusion, you can convince yourself that book has the recipe for chocolate chip cookies.

11/30/2008 9:51:39 PM


So, you're contending that God tortures and kills us from inside as well as from the outside?

11/30/2008 10:10:55 PM


DUDE! If you are going to quote scripture - at least get the verse right! Hebrews 1:8 is this:

"But God said about his Son, "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever. The scepter in your kingdom is a scepter for justice."

What he is *actually* talking about is Hebrews 1:10-1:12

1:10 And, "In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands.

1:11 They will come to an end, but you will remain forever. They will all wear out like clothes.

1:12 You will roll them up like a robe, and they will be changed like clothes. But you remain the same, and your life will never end."

Apparently metaphor is lost on this guy.

11/30/2008 10:17:55 PM

Darth Wang

Hey quick, let's find a vague bible passage and misinterpret it to support evolution! That will really blow the fundies' minds

11/30/2008 10:31:48 PM

David B.

@Darth Wang:

Daniel 2:21-22;

He changes times and seasons;
(Clearly a reference to the various geological eras)
He sets up kings and deposes them.
(Such as the dinosaurs, and before them the synapsids)
He gives wisdom to the wise
And knowledge to the discerning.
(Referring to our evolution of bigger brains)

He reveals deep and hidden things;
He knows what lies in darkness,
(Meaning fossils, natch!)
And light dwells with him.
(And a bit of sucking up to finish.)

It's not even a challenge.

11/30/2008 10:58:22 PM

Mister Spak

"Here was this supposing 'out of date' Bible totally describing something considered a part of the latest in physic theories. It was an incredible moment and caused quite a stir of discussion in class. "

And yet the bible says the world is flat. How do you explain that?

11/30/2008 11:10:10 PM


Creepy, ne?

11/30/2008 11:52:37 PM

Mister Spak

"I also heard that Higgs Boson denounced his findings and found faith in Jesus on his death bed!"


12/1/2008 1:06:26 AM

Mister Naturalist

There are several signs that this isn't a good fundy quote.

1. He is utilizing a scientific discipline to combine his Christian belief with evidence. That by itself should dismiss the quote from being on this site.

2. He is misquoting a verse from the Bible. Normally, fundies make sure they quote their holy text accurately (or at least the verse), and it's worrying that such a mistake would be make. Makes me wonder if this isn't a troll/poe.

12/13/2008 9:44:35 PM


So this guy has string theory wrong, so what? A truly fundie approach to string theory would be "OMggg!!!11!!! That's not in the Bible, it must be evil, so it doesn't exist!" The fact that he's trying to align his faith and what he understands about science (even if it's wrong) is actually pretty cool.

I'm atheist, but I'm sick of atheist fundamentalism. I get the point of laughing and gasping at comments about creationism and abuse, but this post about string theory is completely unassuming and harmless. For an anti-fundie stance to make any sense at all, it needs to take into account the fact that religion does not equal fundamentalism.


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11/30/2009 12:38:46 PM

why is it that a christian can unquestioningly accept an incredibly complex theory that is still in its primary stages, and unquestioningly deny another incredibly complex theory that has been all but proven?

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