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I personally am against this "Big Brother" approach. What started off in this country - United Kingdom, as a basically honourable idea - DNA data bank for tracking terrorists/child rapists et al, has suddenly become open to abuse. The hypothesis: "If you've got noting to hide, you've got nothing to fear." has been overused so much it has now become a cliche. The number of bodies legally entitled to enter your premesis whether or not you approve is not limited to the emergency services - increadibly it runs into three figures, including tax inspectors. OK, few of them are used, but they still have the right to enter your property uninvited. The Government also have the right to delve into your medical records and, of course, bank accounts. In fact, if you leave your mobile phone on, they can trace exactly where you are to within three feet, because all mobile phones emit a signal - that's why whenever I go out for the day, I either turn it off or leave it at home. I personally am sick and tired of the Government poking it's nose into my affairs, and honourably as it may initially seem, how long is it going to be before it is used to determine texts between consenting homosexuals under the guise of "The community needs protecting." In this country you've got dummies in the Government losing highly confidential data all over the place. Not a week goes by without it emerging yet another Government minister has lost his laptop containing the unencrypted data of soldiers or other highly classified information.

Even as I sit here writing this message, the Government know how many computers are on at any one time, who they belong to, and what web sites they frequent. George Orwell would be turning in his grave if he knew just ho much informationwe give out about ourselves winds up under the eyes of busybodies.

The Government didn't bail out the banks for our benefits - they did it so they could keep an even tighter control on who has what in their account. There are many people out there like me who deal only in cash - that way the Government don't know what we spend our money on. Tradesmen will give you a substancial reduction if you pay cash, too. I hope somebody in Governmental circles reads this and takes the point!

Frederick, Lampstand Study 16 Comments [11/26/2008 5:37:43 PM]
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Antichrist

Although he goes a little off the deep-end, I can see where he's coming from. And I agree that I'm sick of the "If you've got noting to hide, you've got nothing to fear." rhetoric.

11/26/2008 6:50:08 PM

Psittacosis

Listen, kid, the govermnent has no bloody idea where its own computers are, never mind anybody else's.

11/26/2008 7:29:38 PM

aaa

Well, there's that PATRIOT act...

11/26/2008 7:56:06 PM

Apostle

Not nutty, pretty far fetched but has a hint of truth in it.

11/26/2008 9:38:41 PM

blah

Obviously paranoid individual actually has a kernel of truth?

Edit: mind you, just a kernel.

11/26/2008 11:06:57 PM



This was fine...then the last paragraph ruined it.

11/26/2008 11:15:00 PM

Porky Pine

While a little on the paranoid side, he does have a point.

But I wonder, if he's so worried about the govt tracking him through his cell phone, why does he even have one?

11/27/2008 3:35:58 AM

gorm_sionnach

"Tradesmen will give you a substancial reduction if you pay cash, too. I hope somebody in Governmental circles reads this and takes the point!"

People don't like paying taxes?

11/27/2008 3:54:45 AM

Mortok

Even if the government does know, I don't think it cares very much.

11/27/2008 4:00:39 AM

anonymous

"all mobile phones emit a signal"

OH GOD NO

"the Government know how many computers are on at any one time, who they belong to, and what web sites they frequent."

Well the ISPs do, in theory. Whether they really give a shit is a matter of opinion.

11/27/2008 5:02:37 AM

Andreus

Totally agree with him until the last paragraph. I'd really love to say that this guy was totally whacko but actually, and unfortunately, he's kind of right.

11/27/2008 4:04:00 PM

DCoke

Well, I don't know about the UK. But in other places the government has to get web-surfing info from ISPs. They don't know, or they wouldn't get pissed off at Google.

11/28/2008 5:53:39 AM



"What started off in this country - United Kingdom, as a basically honourable idea - DNA data bank for tracking terrorists/child rapists et al, has suddenly become open to abuse"

It was designed to be abused.
Otherwise they'd destroy the samples of people not charged never mind aquited.
Did Jack Straws son give a sample when he was picked up for selling drugs?
Or Blairs son for rolling around in the gutter pissed?
Did they heck as like.

11/28/2008 6:44:39 PM

WMDKitty

Well, he has a point about "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" -- it's quite Orwellian. However, the only people (AFAIK) in the database are suspected/convicted rapists (including child molesters). The rest of this is silly.

ETA: Some laws are just nanny-state BS. I should be able to put anything I want to into my body, as long as I am not harming or endangering others. Meaning, if I wanna smoke a J, who the hell is it hurting? And why does the U.S. gov't continue to suppress the truth about marijuana? Every government-commissioned study has turned out *opposite* to the government's official "pot maeks u skitzo an turns u in2 a junkee" line. Gawd, you'd think they'd have learned from Prohibition!

11/29/2008 4:18:25 AM

Faxon

OMG! The government being able to look at your national health service record. The sheer horror!

11/30/2008 12:57:57 PM

Often Partisan

This guy has a point, the british gov't is too authoritarian. I mean, there's an element of nutty inthere, but it's not completely off in the deep end.

Hilarious in Hindsight: one MP recently criticsed people for paying tradesmen in cash to avoid taxes, haha.

8/26/2012 4:29:42 PM
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