The founding fathers went even farther than just limiting voting to property holders, they also made it so that senators were appointed and not elected and that there would not be a popular vote for president*, unfortunately, big government liberals who saw how much this hurt their agenda got all of these things overturned.
The founding fathers were afraid of mob rule, particularly of the mob voting themselves other people's money. Their controls were abolished by socialists. TADA! Mob rule.
Get rid of the mob of thieves, make America a better place to live. (Killing all of the liberals would help too, but better to make sure that new liberals can't take root as easily instead of continually having to get rid of them)
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Someone should tell GT that the republican party changed the house and senate elections to popular votes.
Yes, I know the republicans were liberal back then, but you can't expect the average freecon member to know that.
Not particularly Fundie... maybe fascist (even then, its a bit of a stretch...)
Clearly the man is a nitwit.
The founding fathers were afraid of mob rule, particularly of the mob voting themselves other people's money. Their controls were abolished by socialists. TADA! Mob rule.
If you resent the notion of paying taxes, just come out and say it.
Wow, check out that cunt Maggie_T later on:
"(shrug) Some of us have being saying that for years. Vote should not be a right, but a privilege.
And those who apply, should take a test before voting. The test should be on basic economy, basic politics, and American history, mainly about the Constitution.
And only if they pass said test should people be allowed to vote. "
Fascist twat. Go back to WWII Italy if you hate freedom so much.
Edit: I'm willing to bet those assholes wouldn't be calling for such voting restrictions had Republicans won the election.
"And those who apply, should take a test before voting. The test should be on basic economy, basic politics, and American history, mainly about the Constitution."
...Well I'm partially okay with that, it'll keep most fundies from voting.
Mortok wrote:
"Hang on... without a popular vote, how do they decide who the president will be?"
The president was -- and still is -- elected by Electors appointed by each State. Each State is free to determine for itself how the Electors are to be chosen. In every state nowadays, the Electors are required to pledge to vote for the same candidates that the majority of popular votes chose.
However, in the past, many States' Electors were appointed by the State Legislature, with no popular vote being involved. In some cases, the Electors didn't even have to vote the way the Legislature wanted them to!
"The founding fathers were afraid of mob rule, particularly of the mob voting themselves other people's money."
You mean taxes? Then move to Kuwait they have no taxes. In fact the government pays you from its oil royalties.
The "founding fathers" founded the most liberal country in world in 1776, dumbass. Conservative cowards like you wanted us to stay a monarchy under England. Fortunately we just rid of a mob of thieves with this election, you know the CONSERVATIVE GOP crooks who started a war for profit for their contributors, sold big oil price-gouging rights for 90% of their political contributions to Republican candidates. and created a welfare for the rich system that killed off the middle class with their greed. Of course a free-conner like you wouldn't know about that living off mom and dad's tit in their basement.
big government liberals who saw how much this hurt their agenda got all of these things overturned.
How about when big conservatives overturned gay marriage? Or how about big conservatives who are fighting to overturn abortion and mobing outside of abortion clincs?
Killing all of the liberals would help too
Killing anyone isn't going to solve your problems. Even if their were not liberals, conservatives would probably just find a way to fight with themselves.
Get rid of the mob of thieves, make America a better place to live.
We did. Obama is the president elect, and BushLite aka McCain isn't.
Founding fathers said: For the people, by the people, so fuck off you loon.
So you want to abolish democracy and institute an oligarchy where you and your rich republican asses can rule over the little folk?
What's funny is that the more religious areas tend to be poorer, so if they instituted a system where money = power then the religious right would be stripped of all it's lockstep value voters and a bunch of rich liberals on the east and west coast would take over the government.
If it weren't for the core of the republican party being made up of big buisness tycoons and rich preacher types we would actually stand a chance of fixing all this shit.
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."
Your goons will come for us, then the gays, then other faiths. Then they may come for you, and you won't have anyone to protect you...
Now that Obama has won, we can expect more of this sort of thing. Before, it was "shut up and listen to the majority". Now that they've found out they're not the majority, it's "stop the majority mob from controlling us".
"(Killing all of the liberals would help too, but better to make sure that new liberals can't take root as easily instead of continually having to get rid of them)"
It's the fact that the likes of you continue to breathe air, that are an insult to those who died in WWII to eliminate those who thought like you (Hitler's Nazis, Mussolini's Fascists & Tojo's military junta). If you want to get rid of enemies of freedom & democracy, you can start with yourselves. If you don't, then that proves your hypocrisy. In which case, still eliminate yourselves. Or become left-wing.
Or simply admit your candidate(s) (Caribou Barbie & The Corpse) LOST, stop throwing your toys out of your pram, and live with the fact that next January, you're gonna have a black, liberal president. And thank goodness for that, says I.
You know, many of the founding fathers owned slaves as well. They obviously weren't perfect, and they knew it, hence the reason they made the constitution amendable.
Get rid of the mob... by becoming another mob? Yeah, that'll work, Sparky. Here's some toys, go and pretend you're Chuck Norris.
"The founding fathers went even farther than just limiting voting to property holders,"
Then, those that do not own property can be taxed without having a say in the government! Taxation without representation FTW! Nothing like going back to the country's roots, right?
We're talking about only property holders being able to vote ? Seriously?
Hello there John Locke, how is the seventeenth century????
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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