[An RR visitor to a classroom notes that one of the children owns an "occult" book which he reads in his free time and asks RR what should she have done about it?]
[...] IF something is evil, is it wrong to expose it and do something about it? The School certainly has rules, and on the other hand, we do answer to a higher authority, I would have distroyed the book, I'll tell you why, because I was in a situation like this once, not that I thought I should take this upon myself, it was the greater good, I found books on evil, distroyed them with out the family knowing it, ( it was being held by an uncle who passed away ) the family knew nothing of it and were saved from the hurt it would have caused, the material no longer existed and nothing more about it... If the book of this student had been taken and distroyed, what would have that student have said? Would he have come forward, revealing more of himself, I wouldn't think so, he is dabbling in evil, evil does not like the light, if he's not out and proud of his occultic beliefs, even though he may carry the book around, hopeing for a snare, to grab someones interest and bring them to satan, no I feel it would not be wrong to have taken this material and distroyed it.. IF he left it, he's either playing with everyone or maybe even looking for help, Maybe inside he's so caught up, but enough of him is looking for help.. Could it be? I'd have done the greater good and distroyed it and said nothing.
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Well, you must not be afraid of getting the crap beaten out of you by the person who owned the book... So I'm guessing it's probably someone you consider nerdy...
I'm guessing, the "Book of Vile Darkness"
Ok, according to the law, that's theft and destruction of property. If I were a judge, I'd give you the maximum sentence possible, because you're an asshole for wanting to dEstroy (learn how to spell) someone's book.
"IF something is evil, is it wrong to expose it and do something about it?"
No, but what you consider "evil" and what normal people consider evil are two very different things.
"The School certainly has rules, and on the other hand, we do answer to a higher authority,"
The Board of Education?
Oh, wait. You mean Gawd. Silly me.
"If the book of this student had been taken and distroyed, what would have that student have said?"
Probably something like "what the fuck is wrong with you?" Then he and his friends would have beaten your sorry ass in the parking lot after school.
As an aside, try to find the period key once in a while other than for ellipses.
Q.If someone felt they were answering to a higher power and that it would be for the greater good to destroy your bible, does it give them the right?
A. NO. It does not. The same goes when the shoe is on the other foot.
Q.Is it legal to take someone else's property?
A.No. It is not.
Q. Is it legal to destroy someone else's property?
A. No, it is not.
Theft, destruction of someone else's belonging's, and lying about it (by saying nothing). Does this sound like a witnessing tool to you? Is this what Jesus would do? This is what makes you dangerous. Blatantly doing wrong and then twisting the reasons and hiding behind your bible after you decide for yourself what's best for other people. TSK TSK.
Delusions are not higher authorities.
What was this book, The Wizard of Oz, maybe the Yellow Pages?
Funny how these fundies want the ten commandments posted in every school and public building when they don't believe they apply to them at all. Anyone who reads RR any length of time knows that they have major problems with the 9th commandment and lying. Apparently they also have problems with #8 and stealing. That book is someone else's property and throwing it away or destroying it is stealing, plain and simple. They're cherry-picking their Bible. Again!
@Quantum Mechanic: "I would have distroyed(sic) the book"
Try a reading a dictionary first.
Beulahland distroyed [sic] it!
So much fundie, and not one correctly spelt 'destroyed' in this word salad. Beulahland, maybe you should try literacy for a change, before you start criticising people's choices in reading.
Let's restate what this person is really saying:
"IF I personally think something is evil based on my own lunatic-fringe fundamentalist opinion , is it wrong to expose it and do something about it?"
Yes. You're a wacked out idiot. Leave other people alone. If God has a problem, He can deal with it Himself. Nobody needs you to protect the rest of us from God.
I'll tell you this. If some nutjob ever destroyed one of MY books, I would be very, very upset.
Leave the poor child alone. He was not yours. Stop butting in.
Belt-up Beulahland. You poe-faced, anal-retentive, self-righteous twit. An arbiter of wisdom you're not.
If you're a typical representative of the Rapture Ready crowd then the rest of them must be a pretty shoddy bunch.
I'm trying to figure out something about the line "I found books on evil."
That couldn't possibly imply that Beulahland actually read the books first, to make a serious determination as to the level of evil described therein, could it?
Apparently, according to the person who started the thread, this book was the source of this child's juvenile delinquency. I'm sure if he had a nice Bible to read, he would be a well-behaved and productive student.
Not.
Seriously, what people read is none of your business.
I read as much of the thread as there was to see, and I noticed one glaring omission: no one mentioned which book this kid was reading and no one even asked what the title was. This kind of crapola will never die.
Back in the late 90s I was working as a fundraiser for the Fraternal Order of Police. The lodge was right across the parking lot from us and from time to time cops would mosey over during our smoke breaks and chat. One of them noticed a Warhammer 40,000 book in the back window of my Jetta and started hassling me about toting around "Satanic and evil books".
Here's a little snippet from these loveless b******s: ...he [the kid]...will sometimes just fall into the floor during class and pitch a fit and cant function unless he is on medication..... So these cretins are hassling what sounds like some kid with epilepsy or a mental illness.
@ Quantum Mechanic
Try a reading a dictionary first.
@ Headache
Try a reading a dictionary first.
Beulahland distroyed [sic] it!
@ Papabear
What was this book, The Wizard of Oz, maybe the Yellow Pages?
First one I thought of; Dictionary.
2nd choice; Phone Book
I know a fundy family that keeps a dictionary on the bottom of a tall stack of books, just under the phone book. What's on top? Bible, of course. The phone book has a listing for "Occult Supplies", and the dictionary has lots of evil words that corrupt the righteous mind; witchcraft, occult, atheism, liberal, etc.
A bunch of the RR people said they would have thrown it in the trash or destroyed it. If a teacher did the same thing to a student's Bible though, they would be begging Jesus to return.
They also say that the book shouldn't be allowed at school. I wonder what their views are on Bibles being banned from school...
Yeah, I love all the comments to that post.
'Getting that stuff away from a boy as young as 10!!, to me, is way more important than any student rights.'
They can't fathom why an 'occult' book would even be allowed in a school. Surely it should be banned and destroyed because they don't like it.
Maybe if you read more books, you'd know how to spell? Just a thought.
And if anyone destroyed one of my kid's books, they'd have a very large, very angry me to deal with.
This is why these people are so incredibly dangerous, both on an individual level and to human society as a whole - their tenets hold that there is nothing wrong with violating any other social contract, convention or law if it serves the purposes of the cult.
This is the mentality of these guys. While they want their theocracy and Bible based goverment and institutions, they also feel free (obliged yet) to break commandments and secular laws.
It's like they want others to be forced to live in subjegation but they can rationalize any crime. Do they not realize we could all do that? Or that if that's how it worked the more intelligent would be able to use it more?
Wow. This dumbass is so offended by a child reading a book, that she wants to destroy other people's property, and thereby commit at crime.
The funniest part is, these people go on and on about battling the occult/evolutionary theory/non-Christians, but refuse to do any research on any of these subjects. How exactly can you defeat an enemy you refuse to learn anything about?
Sorry to be a spoilsport, but actually, you Rapture Ready lot have got it all wrong. When any one of your RR people die, they'll be going straight to hell. That's because you're unwittingly doing the demonic work of satan. There'll be no excuses, you can't say you haven't been warned.
It was probably that book Twilight.
Frankly, as a teacher I would never let someone like that in my classroom.
It doesn't matter what the "occult" book was (it was probably a Harry Potter book or a Dungeons & Dragons book). The scary part is, Beulahland is saying she would have stolen this person's book and "distroyed" it. This fine, upstanding Christian is advocating theft and destruction of private property.
Obviously Beulahland's parents/guardians never taught him/her that other people's stuff is not his/hers. I know I got taught at an early age that stuff given to me or stuff I purchased is my stuff. If I didn't pay for it or someone didn't let me use it, it's not mine, so DON'T FUCKING TOUCH IT! What is so hard to understand about simple property rules? If it's not yours you don't get to do anything with it! Also, destruction of property is illegal, but damn! I thought most people knew that it wasn't just illegal, it's just not right behavior!
Sheesh, fundies claim to have morality, but they fail at basic standards of behavior.
@WMDKitty: "I'm tempted to leave a copy of the Necronomicon in a local church, just for lulz."
Please, PLEASE, just don't leave it there opened!
Yeah, real heroic -- destroy someone else's property but not have the courage of your convictions to admit it. It would serve you right if you had to buy another copy for the student, thereby increasing the author's royalties. And yes, if it was my child's book, I would not be satisfied with having a check for the value. I would insist that this moron go into a bookstore and actually purchase another copy. If there was some way I could make sure members of their church saw them doing it, that would be even better.
Oh, and I don't think she tossed uncle's dictionary. More likely discovered his porn stash and might even have kept a few examples to be reassured just how evil it was.
You fundies, you must learn the meaning of commas, and you need to learn how to use periods, commas are not meant to be used as periods, you can't have many different sentences joined just by commas, really, where did you guys learn grammar, oh wait maybe it was the Bible, the Bible doens't have many periods in it, any eight year old knows what a period is for, sentence structure is taught in school, you should know it, how can we take you seriously if you're this illiterate.
Gah. It's hard to type that way >.> I have to ignore everything I've ever learned about grammar.
@ Elphada: I think it's the incantations, like people saying Alohamora . For some reason, they think Latin would actually help them do magic if said while waving a thin peice of wood.
Re: Beeblebrox'es & #854428's posts
A couple of months ago, I acquired (in a sale) a copy of one of the sourcebooks for the D20 based "Left Behind" RPG, & frankly, I find the Warhammer 40K universe setting, less horrific & more believeable...
Let me guess...it was 'Harry Potter', or maybe 'Twilight', right?
I wonder what these twits would do if they happened across 'The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty' or 'Lady Chatterley's Lover'? Sex is far more evil to these asshats than almost anything else.
DIAF.
The gene pool needs more chlorine, it would seem...
As an aspiring librarian, I strongly feel that book-burning morons like this should be ass-raped with a spiked baseball bat and set on fire.
...because you fancy yourself some sort of Nazi idea police.
But, I guess I could do the same with the Gideon's litter in most hotel rooms.
No, it's not wrong to expose evil things and to do something about it. Like talking about it in class, like educating yourself about the issue so that you're prepared to counter it, like donating to organizations working against it. This is, of course, relating to real evils, like Nazism, fascism, racism, sexism, violations of human rights for LGBTQI+ people, climate change denial, etc. "Occult" things are as imaginary as your occult-ish book, dearie.
Doesn't that higher authority have something against theft? I seem to remember something about "Thou Shalt Not Steal"...
You need Remedial English, dearie.
The book might have been purchased by his parents, and they will want to know what he's done with the book. "An evil lady at school stole it and burned it" might get him into trouble, as it seems like a made-up story.
There was a group of people about 80 years ago that were also fond of taking books they found evil and distroying[sic] them.
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